Once the iPhone app and rotisserie / total points options are complete. We will begin working on our next series of upgrades. Below are our current thoughts - please let us know if you disagree with our priority order.
1. Overhaul live draft
2. Improve email draft
3. Overhaul message board
4. Real time chat
5. Transaction limits
6. Improve injury updates
[Deleted User]Wed 3/17/10 5:51 PM
Here is my opinion:
Overhauling the live draft- This to me would be a low priority seeing that the AVG league on has half the league show up for the draft. As with the drafting issues, again not a great deal and most drafts go smooth.
Improving the e-mail draft- This to me would be a top one as this kind of drafting is catching on now!! To me, emailing the draft is great for ppl who are on different coasts or even countries!! Maybe adding a time limit of 24 or 48 hours or a auto pick happens!! Also making it easier to switch back in forth if needed!!
Overhauling the message boards- YES YES YES!!! The commish should have the option to "clean the board" to keep old messages of the board!! Also putting new messages on the first page so if a BIG chat happens you don't have to page and page to get to the message!!
Real time chat- I disagree with most owners here, I think having this option would be great for a league during the offseason to have the league get together in one place, hammer out issues, voting on changes, etc.. without having to "wait" weeks for a finally vote!!
Transaction limits- this to me is a non-issue and shouldn't even be on the change list. This can and should be controlled by the commish and such!!
Injury updates- yes and no, as most of us look at "other sites" for injuries, again a non-issue, but can understand the whole DL thing, this should be real time making it easier for the commish!!
Rick, the point is if Flea had injury updates and roster updates then we wouldnt have to look elsewhere for it..
Transaction limits a non issue? How can a commish control it if it isnt an option? Telling me I have to sit there and keep tract of what everybody is doing? And tell them even though its within the rules you cant add any more players?
If espn and yahoo have these options then why shouldnt fleaflicker? If Fleaflickers plans are to have more traffic in baseball and basketball then they need to get more user friendly..No if's ands or buts about it..
First off, I DIDN'T say no nor did I say it's not needed. I stated WHAT my opinion is on what should be a priority and what not. You may have a different outlook than me, but it's my opinion.
No need to "stress" it out, what just ranking "MY" priority list, that's all!
Lol..I didnt mean it to look like an argument..Just didnt know what you meant by the commish can control transaction limits..Thats alot of work if the commish has to keep tract of it when he has 6 daily baseball and 4 daily basketball leagues! :)
I'll make this my last post on the issue because it feels like im ruffeling feathers and I dont wanna do that..To me its not even debateable whats more important, message boards or getting baseball stuff done like starting icons, injury updates, and transaction limits..Call me crazy but its a no brainer.
I would move the message board up to 2 and move the email draft down to 4. The message board, both in leagues and the forums, is awful. Just don't make it like yahoo's message boards, those may be the worst ever.
I would move injury updates to 3. Sorry, but last football season was a joke. Owen Daniels went in IR, then was off, on, off, etc probably 45 times. Lynch and Marshall were suspended, then not, then suspended again another 45 times. For leagues that only allow players that are on IR or Suspended to be placed on the IR, this is a major problem.
I would then drop the chat down to 6.
There are many other things that should be on this list though. Show commish actions, auction drafts, private messages that don't use email (should coincide with message board fixing I guess), etc.
Yeah, I remember that to..But just because your roster says illegal it doesnt mean you have to take them off IR, they'll eventually be IR eligible again...But yeah, I agree injury updates needs to be at or near the top of priorities..
I dont get the message board stuff though..Who cares?..I know its a mess but its just a message board and most peeps can find better things to do instead of sifting through and chatting on a message board..Baseball season starts in less than 3 weeks, i'd much rather have flea focus more on important things like getting the h2h cat leagues ready, starting icons, injury updates, transaction limits, etc, etc.
True, but you can't make roster moves if you have a player on IR that doesn't qualify for it.
Also, if you noticed, they said they were going to work on these things AFTER the roto/H2H stuff is done, so the message board won't infringe on that time. Starting icons aren't necessary. It takes 3 seconds to check if a pitcher or other player is starting that day. After the injury report nonsense over the past couple of seasons, would you really trust a starting icon?
Haha, yeah I noticed that but there still isnt a specific time on it, for all we know "complete" means 3 weeks from now..
And yes, starting icons are necessary and i'd trust them because those would be coming from a live boxscore and daily leagues need that..It might not take long to do the searching but you still have to come back and make the replacements if they arent starting..When you work all day, thats not fun to be in a time crunch when you get home...I dont think people realize how much of a pain in the ass it'll be for daily leagues without starting icons.
Im not arguing with you Voltron or the other guy that said message boards should be #2..Just saying over all, message boards and cbox's shouldnt even be a priority when baseball season is so close..Lets get the important things done and worry about the other stuff later.
3 weeks? Aren't you being a little too optimistic? Roto should have been up and ready by now to make sure people know about it prior to the season. It reminds me of last year when they just threw baseball out there mid-season.
Money Leagues. I would like to start a couple here on flea and finance tracker would be really nice. Once again, this is not a perk, and is offered in other places I play. I'm not against paying for my amusement, if that is what it takes to get what I need to run leagues with players of the standard I'm used to playing with.
Injury updates were a major concern last year, as our league only allowed a player to be on IR twice durig the season. Also when you can read anywhere that a players is out, and fanball or whatever is also out, and your player is listed as healthy but in a full body cast. Really lame.
Football is pretty much cut and dry though, when a player gets hurt in most cases you pretty much know he's IR eligible before Sunday..
Basketball is a pain the butt though and i'd imagine baseball will be the same..Bosh just recently missed 7 games and 7 games in hoops is almost 3 weeks and not 1 time did he make IR eligibilty because the Raptors listed him as day to day when everybody and their dog knew he wasnt playing..Well who isnt day to day in fantasy sports?
Same thing right now with Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace for examples, both didnt play last night, both wont play tonight and Johnson is already "iffy" for Friday but neither are IR eligible..This really screwes a guy in points leagues, especially if you're playing a streamer..
And players shouldnt lose their IR eligibilty when they havent played yet..Just because Chris Paul is running and shooting hoops with the team doesnt mean he's gonna play..
I should say I realize this isnt fleas fault..They're doing their best with what they get, they probably get their injury updates from site/source that gets their updates from the teams..
Just saying I wish there was a way to list a player whos out as out instead of day to day.
FFCSR_DougWed 3/17/10 8:00 AM
Once the iPhone app and rotisserie / total points options are complete. We will begin working on our next series of upgrades. Below are our current thoughts - please let us know if you disagree with our priority order.
1. Overhaul live draft
2. Improve email draft
3. Overhaul message board
4. Real time chat
5. Transaction limits
6. Improve injury updates
[Deleted User]Wed 3/17/10 5:51 PM
Here is my opinion:
Overhauling the live draft- This to me would be a low priority seeing that the AVG league on has half the league show up for the draft. As with the drafting issues, again not a great deal and most drafts go smooth.
Improving the e-mail draft- This to me would be a top one as this kind of drafting is catching on now!! To me, emailing the draft is great for ppl who are on different coasts or even countries!! Maybe adding a time limit of 24 or 48 hours or a auto pick happens!! Also making it easier to switch back in forth if needed!!
Overhauling the message boards- YES YES YES!!! The commish should have the option to "clean the board" to keep old messages of the board!! Also putting new messages on the first page so if a BIG chat happens you don't have to page and page to get to the message!!
Real time chat- I disagree with most owners here, I think having this option would be great for a league during the offseason to have the league get together in one place, hammer out issues, voting on changes, etc.. without having to "wait" weeks for a finally vote!!
Transaction limits- this to me is a non-issue and shouldn't even be on the change list. This can and should be controlled by the commish and such!!
Injury updates- yes and no, as most of us look at "other sites" for injuries, again a non-issue, but can understand the whole DL thing, this should be real time making it easier for the commish!!
With that, this is the order it should be:
1. Improving e-mail draft
2. Overhauling the message board
3. Real time chat
4. Improve injury updates
5. Overhauling the live draft
6. Transaction limits
JMO,
Rick
HOFer
deenWed 3/17/10 6:05 PM
Rick, the point is if Flea had injury updates and roster updates then we wouldnt have to look elsewhere for it..
Transaction limits a non issue? How can a commish control it if it isnt an option? Telling me I have to sit there and keep tract of what everybody is doing? And tell them even though its within the rules you cant add any more players?
If espn and yahoo have these options then why shouldnt fleaflicker? If Fleaflickers plans are to have more traffic in baseball and basketball then they need to get more user friendly..No if's ands or buts about it..
[Deleted User]Wed 3/17/10 6:23 PM
deen
First off, I DIDN'T say no nor did I say it's not needed. I stated WHAT my opinion is on what should be a priority and what not. You may have a different outlook than me, but it's my opinion.
No need to "stress" it out, what just ranking "MY" priority list, that's all!
Rick
HOFer
deenWed 3/17/10 6:30 PM
Lol..I didnt mean it to look like an argument..Just didnt know what you meant by the commish can control transaction limits..Thats alot of work if the commish has to keep tract of it when he has 6 daily baseball and 4 daily basketball leagues! :)
I'll make this my last post on the issue because it feels like im ruffeling feathers and I dont wanna do that..To me its not even debateable whats more important, message boards or getting baseball stuff done like starting icons, injury updates, and transaction limits..Call me crazy but its a no brainer.
iamgreggWed 3/17/10 3:44 PM
I think the Email draft is in more need of improvements (autopick, timer are missing essentials) than the live one currently.
craaseWed 3/17/10 3:11 PM
I agree with you all adding a team quarterback option should be the highest priority
VoltWed 3/17/10 5:33 PM
Team QB? That should be about number 427345723485702987574, right behind team RB, team WR, team K, team TE, and team cheerleader.
scotto1959Wed 3/17/10 5:36 PM
Can I be the one behind team cheerleader??? Quick question, WTF is a team quarterback????
deenWed 3/17/10 6:23 PM
Haha no clue..Maybe it means you start the Vikings instead of Favre? I dont get it..
VoltWed 3/17/10 7:54 PM
Yeah, apparently you get all points for all the quarterbacks playing for a team. It is dumb.
VoltWed 3/17/10 1:24 PM
I would move the message board up to 2 and move the email draft down to 4. The message board, both in leagues and the forums, is awful. Just don't make it like yahoo's message boards, those may be the worst ever.
I would move injury updates to 3. Sorry, but last football season was a joke. Owen Daniels went in IR, then was off, on, off, etc probably 45 times. Lynch and Marshall were suspended, then not, then suspended again another 45 times. For leagues that only allow players that are on IR or Suspended to be placed on the IR, this is a major problem.
I would then drop the chat down to 6.
There are many other things that should be on this list though. Show commish actions, auction drafts, private messages that don't use email (should coincide with message board fixing I guess), etc.
deenWed 3/17/10 2:03 PM
Yeah, I remember that to..But just because your roster says illegal it doesnt mean you have to take them off IR, they'll eventually be IR eligible again...But yeah, I agree injury updates needs to be at or near the top of priorities..
I dont get the message board stuff though..Who cares?..I know its a mess but its just a message board and most peeps can find better things to do instead of sifting through and chatting on a message board..Baseball season starts in less than 3 weeks, i'd much rather have flea focus more on important things like getting the h2h cat leagues ready, starting icons, injury updates, transaction limits, etc, etc.
VoltWed 3/17/10 2:15 PM
True, but you can't make roster moves if you have a player on IR that doesn't qualify for it.
Also, if you noticed, they said they were going to work on these things AFTER the roto/H2H stuff is done, so the message board won't infringe on that time. Starting icons aren't necessary. It takes 3 seconds to check if a pitcher or other player is starting that day. After the injury report nonsense over the past couple of seasons, would you really trust a starting icon?
deenWed 3/17/10 2:28 PM
Haha, yeah I noticed that but there still isnt a specific time on it, for all we know "complete" means 3 weeks from now..
And yes, starting icons are necessary and i'd trust them because those would be coming from a live boxscore and daily leagues need that..It might not take long to do the searching but you still have to come back and make the replacements if they arent starting..When you work all day, thats not fun to be in a time crunch when you get home...I dont think people realize how much of a pain in the ass it'll be for daily leagues without starting icons.
Im not arguing with you Voltron or the other guy that said message boards should be #2..Just saying over all, message boards and cbox's shouldnt even be a priority when baseball season is so close..Lets get the important things done and worry about the other stuff later.
deenWed 3/17/10 2:30 PM
If flea wants to make message boards and real time chat boxes a priority over the more important things, then so be it and I wont say anything.
VoltWed 3/17/10 5:30 PM
Personally, I think the chat function would be worthless, but that is just me.
VoltWed 3/17/10 5:36 PM
3 weeks? Aren't you being a little too optimistic? Roto should have been up and ready by now to make sure people know about it prior to the season. It reminds me of last year when they just threw baseball out there mid-season.
deenWed 3/17/10 6:34 PM
Im hoping for it, I look in the site announcements multiple times everyday.
scotto1959Wed 3/17/10 10:55 AM
Money Leagues. I would like to start a couple here on flea and finance tracker would be really nice. Once again, this is not a perk, and is offered in other places I play. I'm not against paying for my amusement, if that is what it takes to get what I need to run leagues with players of the standard I'm used to playing with.
scotto1959Wed 3/17/10 10:57 AM
Like to add!!! I-phone app. flea flop of 2010!!!
[Deleted User]Thu 3/18/10 7:45 PM
I'll be getting it as soon as I can... I wonder what percentage of Flea member own an iPhone or iPod?
scotto1959Fri 3/19/10 9:10 AM
Just by the way everyone is so cheap here, your probably the only one??
deenWed 3/17/10 9:51 AM
I'd put transaction limits and injury updates ahead of the message board overhaul.
So you're only doing roto and not H2H Catergories?
deenWed 3/17/10 9:56 AM
Also, you need to put starting icons for baseball dailey leaguers on the priority list..I'd even out this ahead of the message board overhaul to..
FFCSR_DougWed 3/17/10 10:02 AM
doing roto and H2H categories, apologize for the confusion.
FFCSR_DougWed 3/17/10 10:03 AM
Completely agree on the starting icons.
scotto1959Wed 3/17/10 10:33 AM
Injury updates were a major concern last year, as our league only allowed a player to be on IR twice durig the season. Also when you can read anywhere that a players is out, and fanball or whatever is also out, and your player is listed as healthy but in a full body cast. Really lame.
deenWed 3/17/10 11:04 AM
Football is pretty much cut and dry though, when a player gets hurt in most cases you pretty much know he's IR eligible before Sunday..
Basketball is a pain the butt though and i'd imagine baseball will be the same..Bosh just recently missed 7 games and 7 games in hoops is almost 3 weeks and not 1 time did he make IR eligibilty because the Raptors listed him as day to day when everybody and their dog knew he wasnt playing..Well who isnt day to day in fantasy sports?
Same thing right now with Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace for examples, both didnt play last night, both wont play tonight and Johnson is already "iffy" for Friday but neither are IR eligible..This really screwes a guy in points leagues, especially if you're playing a streamer..
deenWed 3/17/10 11:08 AM
And players shouldnt lose their IR eligibilty when they havent played yet..Just because Chris Paul is running and shooting hoops with the team doesnt mean he's gonna play..
deenWed 3/17/10 11:23 AM
I should say I realize this isnt fleas fault..They're doing their best with what they get, they probably get their injury updates from site/source that gets their updates from the teams..
Just saying I wish there was a way to list a player whos out as out instead of day to day.
SlushWed 3/17/10 9:46 AM
I would put message board number 2