I suggest banning proven cheaters (2 accounts in 1 league, dropping players, etc.) from Fleaflicker after the 1st offense. I have contacted FF a few times about this and they have told me they will look into it each time, and have never done anything. It seems like they think it will hurt reputation if they throw people out for cheating, even though it will actually help. All talk, no action -- and thats pissing me off since I have experienced a few leagues with cheaters lately.
Well till now I've been silent about anything in leagues thus far but I do have a question for anyone here Why does everyone seem to have a problem with this trades at all . I went to him for it be know and asked while foster was on DL status if he would trade me Johnson . Then after 3 weeks of numerous emails on a daily basis we decided to try this trade for value for value . I looked below and saw that someone said because we tried it 3 times ..YOUR kidding of course ! You stupid we tried it 3 times because if was vetoed 3 times . Gotta say this never have a seen a bunch of girls argue of a simple easy trade like this one . This was very fair all the way around for both of us . I can see why Michael said " you watch this league of Ass 75^%&%% jackers will try something stupid "you'll see " . Well I did 2 weeks later now geeeez .
Now I think we should just adopt a policy here and say NO trades are allowed including waivers . - OR - act like civilized people and continue the league as we wanted when we began this league . Gotta say this I'd have NO trouble just dumping this league all togather and moving on .
Distressed
Scott
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LegendoftheGame 2 Hrs
Here here !!
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Rosters have been locked????
Killersquad 23 Hrs
Commishes - I am trying to set my line up but all my players are locked in position. Is this normal? Is it possible that your change to eliminate trades did this? If so, will it be restored to normalcy soon?
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Killersquad 23 Hrs
Thanks for the quick fix guys!
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LegendoftheGame 5 Hrs
Hey Killerssquad I recieved your message from FLEA today ...YAH it was you seems your unhappy with the league and Didnt like the waivers locked ...awwwwww . Sorry to hear that . BooooHoooo . Now write flea again and let them know "I made a mistake " I didnt know why and the reasoning before I reacted unjustly . So as for the trade it will be executed as was in the trade itself .
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sparky8118 4 Hrs
If the trade was vetoed by the league, twice, how can you just push it through?
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LegendoftheGame 4 Hrs
There's nothing wrong with the value of the trade everyone just wants to veto trades . No one has said ANYTHING but it's unfair based on players just they vetoed ...thast crap judgement . So we can have NO trades or we can trades in this league ..well....? The trades was very fair an excahge of RB's for WR's that was the whole basis of the trades .
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Killersquad 9 Mins
Ok Legend - As I have told you before - Simply do what you have to do. You just dont get it do you?? This league, like all flea leagues are free. This means that most of us on here choose to be here for the fun, and we play with credability. This said, what is the problem with those owners who chose to veto your lopsided trade. It was clearly a bad deal to those of us owners who again choose to play this free game with credibility and honor. We, without any discussion between ourselves, chose to veto it. Get over it. As Sparky stated "put something else thru that makes sense". As for your statement attempting to tell me to write to flea again, I don't report to you.
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Sparky - Get used to it. Its the way they operate. Look into them and you will see many examples of behavior which is both threatening and intimidating, not including the unscrupulous manner by which they colude with each other. Problem here is that Flea doesn't care because its free. Same in all leagues they have in common. Next, he will threaten to kick me out. Wanna bet???
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Scottytwohottie 24 Hrs
I guess I'm to assume we will not be doing ANY trades in this league ?. So I'm going to turn off ALL transactions and trades for remainder of the season .
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Killersquad 24 Hrs
Why Michael? Whats up?
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LegendoftheGame 24 Hrs
First off thats was my co commish who I guess is somewaht rattled about trades . Seems we all like to veto trades all year long here thus far . So I agree with him turn off all trades and trans for rest of season
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Killersquad 23 Hrs
Wait Legend - According to the league brackets as shown on the league front page, Your co-commish is mstanleyo who owns Mikes Tar Heels. Not team NWO which is owned by scottytohottie. I will promise not to veto any trades but it is crazy to now say that there are 3 commishes. My bad Michael. Let it ride. Don't punish the league owners who are in this for pleasure because yourbtrade deal was vetoed. The other 4 or 5 owners here are trying to play with credibility and honor. Don't punish them because your trade didn't go thru...just adjust the lineups. With 3 co-commissioners surely it is doable.
ReplyDeleteLinkParentJOE63 23 Hrs
That just ruins this league !!!!
ReplyLinkParentsparky8118 23 Hrs
from what I saw, you and the other commish keep putting the same trade up. You put up the same trade over and over its going to get vetoed over and over. Try a different trade.
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Killersquad 3 Days
What do we have here?
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LegendoftheGame 3 Days
And what do you mean shenanigans ?. want to explain your words here
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Killersquad 3 Days
Do I have to explain my post here Legend? This is not grade school. I have every right to post here as long as it is not offensive to anyone. Should it be found that it is offensive, then I will remove it. As for what I meant by my comment, I will gladly explain, in this public forum, if the other owners request it also.
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JOE63 3 Days
Whats gone on ??
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LegendoftheGame 2 Months
The draft will be tomarrow 9pm est again sorry guys for my blunder
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LegendoftheGame 2 Months
Gentleman I want you to know I've accidently cleared all the roster we just drafted ..sorry . I was preparing for another draft on the same day and accidently cleared the rosters thinking it was the league I was drafting .
Commish
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[Deleted User] 2 Months
Stuff happens,when will you be setting a new draft date?
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[Deleted User] 7 Months
I thought this was a keeper league,why clear the rosters? Not a big deal,just wondering.
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LegendoftheGame 7 Months
Well I not sure why this has happend But I can restore any player you wish that was previously on your roster ? I think
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[Deleted User] 7 Months
Doesn't really matter to me,its set up like a redraft and thats fine. I was just curious thats all,no big deal.
This should close this thread as I have told other commissioners on how to handle multi accounts.
First, make the league private!! This will instate a password, making it hard for a owner to get another account signed in.
When you do this and the league becomes full, then change the password again, this will keep a owner who is caught cheating in the commish eyes, he boots them and the owner can't use the same password cause it has been changed in advance.
Second, for every time you boot somebody, change the password and when somebody comes in, change it again.
When recruiting ask the owner to e-mail you and you will send a password to them, NEVER post it on the thread as some owners can figure your changes then, trust me!!
I know this is a hassle, but been doing it for a year know and it keeps cheaters out of your league and the other owners will love that real players will be in your league!!
Hey little buddy! This double entry thing is to easy to do, I know I did it myself. If I can figure it out anyone can and you know what I mean. The only safe place is in leagues where you know the commish and players. Sucks to have to be that way, but until the fleagods come up with something other than " yes, we're working on it, be back from Aurba in July" Private leagues are the only safe ones, and it's hard for new players to get in. Most commishes, you included, have to have knowledge of the players and thier record. I'm going to start a few leagues for the new guys and we will see where that goes. My best advise is that flea post a list of safe and stable commishes for the new players to scope out. Yes Rick even you are included.
Please read my responses below, as we have addressed some individual issues. From here on out, if there is a problem with cheaters or your league, contact us at info@fleaflicker.com.
NOTE: We will not be using this forum as a means of dealing with cheaters or individual cases - that is not the intention of this forum, but it is the intention of the contact button on the top of this page- feel free to use it if you need further help and we will be glad to try and rectify and clean up any unfair play. The e-mail address to contact us at is info@fleaflicker.com
I had an issue in a league in which I was commish where it was obvious that one guy joined under 2 accounts. We got him to admit he was 1 person, then kicked him/them out. I contacted FF about it and they said they'd look into it, which I have no doubt they did. Why aren't these guys just banned from FF? In the policy it says no cheating, they broke that, and in my opinion should be banned.
Thanks for reporting your issues, guys. We are going to take a look into the ones posted already. However, this forum is not intended to deal with "cheaters," and therefore if you have further questions or concerns, contact us at info@fleaflicker.com and we will be glad to help you out there. We will not be going into individual cases here in the forums.
My basketball league, which has been solid all year, just took a turn in the completely opposite direction. The commish looks like he has 2 accounts in the league and stacks 1 team. At first he tried to trade Steve Nash and another good player (cant remember) to the other team for Shaq and Eric Gordon, a completely ridiculous move. Luckily, it was vetoed so today he cuts Nash and Deron Williams from the bad team hoping to claim them. He most likely won't get either one, but is ruining the league. The commish has denied cheating, and even has other people in the league backing him up, which makes it even more suspicious.
Commish: phade2blaq Other team: phade33 (even that looks suspicious)
I've reported both players for cheating each time these moves were made, and nothing has happened and I don't know what is supposed to happen? Help please?
I understand this is an ongoing issue and you guys are doing you're best, and a great job at that. This is meant to a be helpful comment, not a complaint. Thanks.
I just checked the league and it looks like the checks and balances regarding any cheating and unfair play within the league is working. The trade was vetoed and it seems the message board is working well with everyone communicating (or trying to) at least. If you see anything suspicious going further, contact us at info@fleaflicker.com - from here on out, set your alerts to tell you when a trade is accepted by both parties and if something is fishy or does not seem right - contact us and we'll have a look into it. If need be, we can change commissioners. For now, we are not going to take action based on their user names alone - there are no obvious transactions within the past few days that we can take action against him/them on. If something arises in the future, let us know as soon as possible at info@fleaflicker.com so we can take care of it there.
I reported an obvious cheater once (2 teams in one league, and crazy obvious trades) and nothing was done about it. Why do they even have the report cheating button?
Hi Steve, We have conversed a few times and I believe I rectified your problem then and have looked into many of your other requests. We do our best to prevent any type of cheating and we do look at the cheating reports, and your individual requests -- please see my post below. Please feel free to contact me if you believe further cheating is occurring. We work hard to keep you guys happy and do our best to maintain fair play throughout the site.
Sorry to hear about your troubles. We actually do look into each case individually and take appropriate action. I do work hard at isolating cheaters and fixing incidents. You can continue to e-mail us regarding the issue and if it is deemed appropriate by our staff, then appropriate action is in fact taken against any users violating our ToS or engaging in unfair play. We stress a positive, friendly and competitive environment for all players at Flea. Cheating is not condoned in any way. If you continue to have problems, continue to contact us and I will keep working hard to fix the league. It is tough at times to pinpoint exact cheating, and sometimes (usually a lot) it is left in the discretion of the commissioner -- I usually contact him or her directly and ensure I follow-up.
Thanks for understanding in advance. Unfortunately this issue is not so cut and dried but we do our best and hope you understand this.
NE_Dynasty_0119Wed 2/10/10 7:23 PM
I suggest banning proven cheaters (2 accounts in 1 league, dropping players, etc.) from Fleaflicker after the 1st offense. I have contacted FF a few times about this and they have told me they will look into it each time, and have never done anything. It seems like they think it will hurt reputation if they throw people out for cheating, even though it will actually help. All talk, no action -- and thats pissing me off since I have experienced a few leagues with cheaters lately.
NE_Dynasty_0119Sat 10/15/11 7:02 PM
well this was years ago...
KillersquadSat 10/15/11 6:24 PM
Trdaes
Scottytwohottie 3 Hrs
Well till now I've been silent about anything in leagues thus far but I do have a question for anyone here Why does everyone seem to have a problem with this trades at all . I went to him for it be know and asked while foster was on DL status if he would trade me Johnson . Then after 3 weeks of numerous emails on a daily basis we decided to try this trade for value for value . I looked below and saw that someone said because we tried it 3 times ..YOUR kidding of course ! You stupid we tried it 3 times because if was vetoed 3 times . Gotta say this never have a seen a bunch of girls argue of a simple easy trade like this one . This was very fair all the way around for both of us . I can see why Michael said " you watch this league of Ass 75^%&%% jackers will try something stupid "you'll see " . Well I did 2 weeks later now geeeez .
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Now I think we should just adopt a policy here and say NO trades are allowed including waivers . - OR - act like civilized people and continue the league as we wanted when we began this league . Gotta say this I'd have NO trouble just dumping this league all togather and moving on .
Distressed
Scott
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LegendoftheGame 2 Hrs
Here here !!
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Rosters have been locked????
Killersquad 23 Hrs
Commishes - I am trying to set my line up but all my players are locked in position. Is this normal? Is it possible that your change to eliminate trades did this? If so, will it be restored to normalcy soon?
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Killersquad 23 Hrs
Thanks for the quick fix guys!
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LegendoftheGame 5 Hrs
Hey Killerssquad I recieved your message from FLEA today ...YAH it was you seems your unhappy with the league and Didnt like the waivers locked ...awwwwww . Sorry to hear that . BooooHoooo . Now write flea again and let them know "I made a mistake " I didnt know why and the reasoning before I reacted unjustly . So as for the trade it will be executed as was in the trade itself .
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sparky8118 4 Hrs
If the trade was vetoed by the league, twice, how can you just push it through?
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LegendoftheGame 4 Hrs
There's nothing wrong with the value of the trade everyone just wants to veto trades . No one has said ANYTHING but it's unfair based on players just they vetoed ...thast crap judgement . So we can have NO trades or we can trades in this league ..well....? The trades was very fair an excahge of RB's for WR's that was the whole basis of the trades .
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Killersquad 9 Mins
Ok Legend - As I have told you before - Simply do what you have to do. You just dont get it do you?? This league, like all flea leagues are free. This means that most of us on here choose to be here for the fun, and we play with credability. This said, what is the problem with those owners who chose to veto your lopsided trade. It was clearly a bad deal to those of us owners who again choose to play this free game with credibility and honor. We, without any discussion between ourselves, chose to veto it. Get over it. As Sparky stated "put something else thru that makes sense". As for your statement attempting to tell me to write to flea again, I don't report to you.
ReplyDeleteLinkParentKillersquad 3 Mins
Sparky - Get used to it. Its the way they operate. Look into them and you will see many examples of behavior which is both threatening and intimidating, not including the unscrupulous manner by which they colude with each other. Problem here is that Flea doesn't care because its free. Same in all leagues they have in common. Next, he will threaten to kick me out. Wanna bet???
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Scottytwohottie 24 Hrs
I guess I'm to assume we will not be doing ANY trades in this league ?. So I'm going to turn off ALL transactions and trades for remainder of the season .
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Killersquad 24 Hrs
Why Michael? Whats up?
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LegendoftheGame 24 Hrs
First off thats was my co commish who I guess is somewaht rattled about trades . Seems we all like to veto trades all year long here thus far . So I agree with him turn off all trades and trans for rest of season
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Killersquad 23 Hrs
Wait Legend - According to the league brackets as shown on the league front page, Your co-commish is mstanleyo who owns Mikes Tar Heels. Not team NWO which is owned by scottytohottie. I will promise not to veto any trades but it is crazy to now say that there are 3 commishes. My bad Michael. Let it ride. Don't punish the league owners who are in this for pleasure because yourbtrade deal was vetoed. The other 4 or 5 owners here are trying to play with credibility and honor. Don't punish them because your trade didn't go thru...just adjust the lineups. With 3 co-commissioners surely it is doable.
ReplyDeleteLinkParentJOE63 23 Hrs
That just ruins this league !!!!
ReplyLinkParentsparky8118 23 Hrs
from what I saw, you and the other commish keep putting the same trade up. You put up the same trade over and over its going to get vetoed over and over. Try a different trade.
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Shenanigans
Killersquad 3 Days
What do we have here?
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LegendoftheGame 3 Days
And what do you mean shenanigans ?. want to explain your words here
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Killersquad 3 Days
Do I have to explain my post here Legend? This is not grade school. I have every right to post here as long as it is not offensive to anyone. Should it be found that it is offensive, then I will remove it. As for what I meant by my comment, I will gladly explain, in this public forum, if the other owners request it also.
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JOE63 3 Days
Whats gone on ??
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Draft day
LegendoftheGame 2 Months
The draft will be tomarrow 9pm est again sorry guys for my blunder
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LegendoftheGame 2 Months
Gentleman I want you to know I've accidently cleared all the roster we just drafted ..sorry . I was preparing for another draft on the same day and accidently cleared the rosters thinking it was the league I was drafting .
Commish
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[Deleted User] 2 Months
Stuff happens,when will you be setting a new draft date?
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[Deleted User] 7 Months
I thought this was a keeper league,why clear the rosters? Not a big deal,just wondering.
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LegendoftheGame 7 Months
Well I not sure why this has happend But I can restore any player you wish that was previously on your roster ? I think
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[Deleted User] 7 Months
Doesn't really matter to me,its set up like a redraft and thats fine. I was just curious thats all,no big deal.
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[Deleted User]Thu 2/11/10 7:37 AM
This should close this thread as I have told other commissioners on how to handle multi accounts.
First, make the league private!! This will instate a password, making it hard for a owner to get another account signed in.
When you do this and the league becomes full, then change the password again, this will keep a owner who is caught cheating in the commish eyes, he boots them and the owner can't use the same password cause it has been changed in advance.
Second, for every time you boot somebody, change the password and when somebody comes in, change it again.
When recruiting ask the owner to e-mail you and you will send a password to them, NEVER post it on the thread as some owners can figure your changes then, trust me!!
I know this is a hassle, but been doing it for a year know and it keeps cheaters out of your league and the other owners will love that real players will be in your league!!
Hope this help!!
Rick
scotto1959Fri 2/12/10 12:46 PM
Hey little buddy! This double entry thing is to easy to do, I know I did it myself. If I can figure it out anyone can and you know what I mean. The only safe place is in leagues where you know the commish and players. Sucks to have to be that way, but until the fleagods come up with something other than " yes, we're working on it, be back from Aurba in July" Private leagues are the only safe ones, and it's hard for new players to get in. Most commishes, you included, have to have knowledge of the players and thier record. I'm going to start a few leagues for the new guys and we will see where that goes. My best advise is that flea post a list of safe and stable commishes for the new players to scope out. Yes Rick even you are included.
[Deleted User]Fri 2/12/10 4:41 PM
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Shac-AttackSat 2/13/10 1:47 AM
Great idea!
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Hi !
I've just visited this forum. Happy to get acquainted with you. Thanks.
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FleaMod AdminThu 2/11/10 2:19 AM
Please read my responses below, as we have addressed some individual issues. From here on out, if there is a problem with cheaters or your league, contact us at info@fleaflicker.com.
NOTE: We will not be using this forum as a means of dealing with cheaters or individual cases - that is not the intention of this forum, but it is the intention of the contact button on the top of this page- feel free to use it if you need further help and we will be glad to try and rectify and clean up any unfair play. The e-mail address to contact us at is info@fleaflicker.com
Thanks.
NE_Dynasty_0119Wed 2/10/10 11:39 PM
I had an issue in a league in which I was commish where it was obvious that one guy joined under 2 accounts. We got him to admit he was 1 person, then kicked him/them out. I contacted FF about it and they said they'd look into it, which I have no doubt they did. Why aren't these guys just banned from FF? In the policy it says no cheating, they broke that, and in my opinion should be banned.
FleaMod AdminThu 2/11/10 2:09 AM
Thanks for reporting your issues, guys. We are going to take a look into the ones posted already. However, this forum is not intended to deal with "cheaters," and therefore if you have further questions or concerns, contact us at info@fleaflicker.com and we will be glad to help you out there. We will not be going into individual cases here in the forums.
NE_Dynasty_0119Thu 2/11/10 2:09 PM
OK thank you.
FleaMod AdminThu 2/11/10 3:22 PM
No problem, thanks for your understanding. Feel free to contact the team anytime at info@fleaflicker.com
[Deleted User]Wed 2/10/10 11:34 PM
My basketball league, which has been solid all year, just took a turn in the completely opposite direction. The commish looks like he has 2 accounts in the league and stacks 1 team. At first he tried to trade Steve Nash and another good player (cant remember) to the other team for Shaq and Eric Gordon, a completely ridiculous move. Luckily, it was vetoed so today he cuts Nash and Deron Williams from the bad team hoping to claim them. He most likely won't get either one, but is ruining the league. The commish has denied cheating, and even has other people in the league backing him up, which makes it even more suspicious.
Heres the league: fleaflicker.com
Commish: phade2blaq Other team: phade33 (even that looks suspicious)
I've reported both players for cheating each time these moves were made, and nothing has happened and I don't know what is supposed to happen? Help please?
I understand this is an ongoing issue and you guys are doing you're best, and a great job at that. This is meant to a be helpful comment, not a complaint. Thanks.
FleaMod AdminThu 2/11/10 2:16 AM
I just checked the league and it looks like the checks and balances regarding any cheating and unfair play within the league is working. The trade was vetoed and it seems the message board is working well with everyone communicating (or trying to) at least. If you see anything suspicious going further, contact us at info@fleaflicker.com - from here on out, set your alerts to tell you when a trade is accepted by both parties and if something is fishy or does not seem right - contact us and we'll have a look into it. If need be, we can change commissioners. For now, we are not going to take action based on their user names alone - there are no obvious transactions within the past few days that we can take action against him/them on. If something arises in the future, let us know as soon as possible at info@fleaflicker.com so we can take care of it there.
Thank you.
[Deleted User]Thu 2/11/10 11:12 AM
Thanks.
FleaMod AdminThu 2/11/10 3:22 PM
No problem, thanks for your understanding. Feel free to contact me anytime.
Steve4206933Wed 2/10/10 8:07 PM
I reported an obvious cheater once (2 teams in one league, and crazy obvious trades) and nothing was done about it. Why do they even have the report cheating button?
FleaMod AdminWed 2/10/10 8:11 PM
Hi Steve, We have conversed a few times and I believe I rectified your problem then and have looked into many of your other requests. We do our best to prevent any type of cheating and we do look at the cheating reports, and your individual requests -- please see my post below. Please feel free to contact me if you believe further cheating is occurring. We work hard to keep you guys happy and do our best to maintain fair play throughout the site.
Steve4206933Thu 2/11/10 11:23 PM
thanks, you guys are doing a great job.
FleaMod AdminWed 2/10/10 8:05 PM
Sorry to hear about your troubles. We actually do look into each case individually and take appropriate action. I do work hard at isolating cheaters and fixing incidents. You can continue to e-mail us regarding the issue and if it is deemed appropriate by our staff, then appropriate action is in fact taken against any users violating our ToS or engaging in unfair play. We stress a positive, friendly and competitive environment for all players at Flea. Cheating is not condoned in any way. If you continue to have problems, continue to contact us and I will keep working hard to fix the league. It is tough at times to pinpoint exact cheating, and sometimes (usually a lot) it is left in the discretion of the commissioner -- I usually contact him or her directly and ensure I follow-up.
Thanks for understanding in advance. Unfortunately this issue is not so cut and dried but we do our best and hope you understand this.