There was plenty of debate on this last year? Will we continue to see dual position players? If so, who? And will some of last year's dual position players be listed at a single position this year?
I.. can't imagine it's going to matter much. I can't think of any fantasy relevant players that could possibly have eligibility at more than one position. Unless we're talking IDP, and even then I can't think of much, it won't matter really at all.
It is important in IDP leagues. Players who had dual positions last year, earned it from previous years and they hung onto their old position.
Some of them did not play that older position last year at all (Suggs, for example). Our goal is to have these fixed this week -- we plan on moving a handful players at IDP, as they did not play their other dual position at all and lost it after one year. We don't plan on making many changes, if any at all, past the end of June. We want to have everything in place by July 1 based on position for draft purposes. It's tougher this year without camps though, and that's why we have waited (lockout).
Mario Williams, who is playing in the Texans' new 5-2, will be a down lineman in that system -- so I doubt we'll be touching him from his DE status. IF anything, he will earn that dual eligibility at DE/LB and then if he just plays LB, he loses the DE status after one year of not playing it. But Phillips already said that it will act as a 5-2 with him as a DE, he retracted what he said about the LB move -- other sites jumped the gun there.
Are all changes done done? You mentioned Suggs being only a LB, but he is still dual eligible. I do see Hali is now only eligible at LB. What about Orakpo, Dumervil, Scott, and Williams?
Our statistical team took a look at some film and decided that Suggs spent almost as much time down (nearly 50%) in a DE position on the d-line as up as a LB. Therefore, we are leaving him as a DL/LB for the season.
We basically take things on a case-by-case basis and look at them very seriously and strongly. It is different for every sport and for every player.
The following changes were made. We can't guarantee that we won't change others, but we will usually have a "1-year grace period" for IDPs int he tweener role.
It may be different on offense. For instance, last year Joe Webb was not given a WR/QB designation -- just QB. We try to stay consistent here.
Hali had been designated as a DL/LB for the last couple of years. When Pendergrast was their defensive coordinator in 2009, he moved to OLB and played some time at DE. Last year, with Crennel, he did not play on the line much at all; thereby losing his eligibility there for 2011 (unlike Terrell Suggs who still lines up at DE). So Hali basically lost that DL status due to the grace period ending.
After much film study, research and statistical work, we have moved Hali over for 2011 with the following changes to IDPs:
We'll have to wait to see how Mario Williams plays out when camp opens. Camp has not even opened so we definitely can't make that switch. If we go by what Wade Phillips said, he will be playing as a DE in the 5-2; I doubt we move him over to have DL/LB.
Dumervil will be staying as he is expected to play on both the DL and LB with Von Miller.
rangerdaveSat 6/18/11 3:53 PM
There was plenty of debate on this last year? Will we continue to see dual position players? If so, who? And will some of last year's dual position players be listed at a single position this year?
BaseNoteTue 6/28/11 12:40 AM
I.. can't imagine it's going to matter much. I can't think of any fantasy relevant players that could possibly have eligibility at more than one position. Unless we're talking IDP, and even then I can't think of much, it won't matter really at all.
rangerdaveTue 6/28/11 12:13 PM
It's a huge deal in IDP dynasty leagues as dual position players count against your limits at two positions.
FleaMod AdminTue 6/28/11 1:32 PM
It is important in IDP leagues. Players who had dual positions last year, earned it from previous years and they hung onto their old position.
Some of them did not play that older position last year at all (Suggs, for example). Our goal is to have these fixed this week -- we plan on moving a handful players at IDP, as they did not play their other dual position at all and lost it after one year. We don't plan on making many changes, if any at all, past the end of June. We want to have everything in place by July 1 based on position for draft purposes. It's tougher this year without camps though, and that's why we have waited (lockout).
Mario Williams, who is playing in the Texans' new 5-2, will be a down lineman in that system -- so I doubt we'll be touching him from his DE status. IF anything, he will earn that dual eligibility at DE/LB and then if he just plays LB, he loses the DE status after one year of not playing it. But Phillips already said that it will act as a 5-2 with him as a DE, he retracted what he said about the LB move -- other sites jumped the gun there.
rangerdaveMon 7/4/11 7:12 PM
Are all changes done done? You mentioned Suggs being only a LB, but he is still dual eligible. I do see Hali is now only eligible at LB. What about Orakpo, Dumervil, Scott, and Williams?
FleaMod AdminTue 7/5/11 3:05 PM
Our statistical team took a look at some film and decided that Suggs spent almost as much time down (nearly 50%) in a DE position on the d-line as up as a LB. Therefore, we are leaving him as a DL/LB for the season.
We basically take things on a case-by-case basis and look at them very seriously and strongly. It is different for every sport and for every player.
The following changes were made. We can't guarantee that we won't change others, but we will usually have a "1-year grace period" for IDPs int he tweener role.
It may be different on offense. For instance, last year Joe Webb was not given a WR/QB designation -- just QB. We try to stay consistent here.
Hali had been designated as a DL/LB for the last couple of years. When Pendergrast was their defensive coordinator in 2009, he moved to OLB and played some time at DE. Last year, with Crennel, he did not play on the line much at all; thereby losing his eligibility there for 2011 (unlike Terrell Suggs who still lines up at DE). So Hali basically lost that DL status due to the grace period ending.
After much film study, research and statistical work, we have moved Hali over for 2011 with the following changes to IDPs:
Eric Norwood DL
Eric Moore DL/LB
Brian Orakpo LB
Tamba Hali LB
Trevor Scott DL
Chris Clemons DL
FleaMod AdminTue 7/5/11 3:08 PM
We'll have to wait to see how Mario Williams plays out when camp opens. Camp has not even opened so we definitely can't make that switch. If we go by what Wade Phillips said, he will be playing as a DE in the 5-2; I doubt we move him over to have DL/LB.
Dumervil will be staying as he is expected to play on both the DL and LB with Von Miller.