In my league, i have the "Power & Playoff Rank Tiebreakers" setup based on:
1) Division Record 2) Head-to-Head record 3) Average Points
But my current power rankings would seem to indicate that is not how the power ranking is being processed. Two teams in the same division with the same overall and division record.
They played each other once in head-to-head but the team that won in head-to-head is lower in the power rankings.
We have two teams in our league in the same division with the same overall (7-3) record.
According to the tiebreakers, it should go with division record first as they are in the same division..
The one team with a 4-1 division record has a lower power ranking than the team with the 3-2 division record. Even beyond that, if it went to head-to-head record, the team with the 4-1 division record is 1-0 against the other team.
yes, there is another 7-3 team in the other division. At that point, in our tie breakers, it goes to head-to-head next and the team in the other division holds the head-to-head tiebreaker against one team and is tied head-to-head with the other 7-3 team. The other 7-3 team has the higher point total and rightly gets ranked higher.
But, at that point, the two remaining 7-3 teams in the same division should have another tie-breaker which goes first to the division record where the 4-1 division revord team *should* be ranked about the 3-2 division record team but is not.
but shouldn't it still go by head-to-head record? head-to-head, the team that is ranked 4th in power record has beaten the team ranked 3rd in head-to-head
well, i kind of see what's going on. It ties back to the total order thing.. A beat B, B beat C, but C beat A.. so it goes to the PF to break the 3 way tie
And Team A rightly gets the highest ranking. My question then goes to the remaining two teams, does the PF tie-breaker continue? shouldn't it get reset to break the tie between the remaining teams B and C?
My take on that is that if there are 4 teams tied, it goes through that tie breakers without resetting until there are only 2 teams left at which point it resets back to the two-club tie breaker format.
osnn_fitzTue 10/14/08 4:24 PM
1) Division Record
2) Head-to-Head record
3) Average Points
But my current power rankings would seem to indicate that is not how the power ranking is being processed. Two teams in the same division with the same overall and division record.
They played each other once in head-to-head but the team that won in head-to-head is lower in the power rankings.
osnn_fitzTue 11/11/08 12:14 PM
We have two teams in our league in the same division with the same overall (7-3) record.
According to the tiebreakers, it should go with division record first as they are in the same division..
The one team with a 4-1 division record has a lower power ranking than the team with the 3-2 division record. Even beyond that, if it went to head-to-head record, the team with the 4-1 division record is 1-0 against the other team.
iamgreggThu 11/13/08 12:12 PM
If so, a 3 (or more) way tie may be settled on points scored. Thus why the power rankigns would seem the wrong way around.
In their own division it is a 2 way tie, which is settled on divisional record and head-to-head (from what you've said).
osnn_fitzSun 11/16/08 2:35 AM
But, at that point, the two remaining 7-3 teams in the same division should have another tie-breaker which goes first to the division record where the 4-1 division revord team *should* be ranked about the 3-2 division record team but is not.
fleafounder AdminSun 11/16/08 12:50 PM
They ignore divisional records to provide a league-wide power rank.
osnn_fitzSun 11/16/08 1:44 PM
osnn_fitzSun 11/16/08 8:06 PM
A beat B, B beat C, but C beat A.. so it goes to the PF to break the 3 way tie
And Team A rightly gets the highest ranking. My question then goes to the remaining two teams, does the PF tie-breaker continue? shouldn't it get reset to break the tie between the remaining teams B and C?
fleafounder AdminMon 11/17/08 10:35 AM
However, it's an interesting point. The NFL's rules aren't entirely clear on this.
If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format.
But it also says
When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card.
osnn_fitzTue 11/18/08 12:02 AM