The NFL and the NFL players' union did not reach an agreement that would modify the sport's drug policies and potentially could result in a reduced or overturned suspension for Gordon in time to impact his suspension for Week 1, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. However, multiple sources told the Plain Dealer that an agreement between the NFL and NFL players union that would modify the sport's drug policies could be reached next week.
The new drug agreement would reportedly include testing for HGH and raise the threshold for what would constitute a positive test for marijuana. Gordon's positive test for marijuana was reportedly below the new threshold, thus creating the possibility that his suspension could be reduced. It was a real long shot that Gordon would be reinstated before Week 1, but the bigger question is whether the timing of an agreement after Week 1 would impact a potential reduction of Gordon's suspension. Various theories about the timing of Gordon's positive test for marijuana and whether the agreement would cover players suspended before the start of the season leave the impact of a new agreement in doubt. Plus the new agreement may add mandatory suspensions for DUI arrests, and Gordon had a DWI in November. It's also not clear that the two sides will agree to modify prior suspensions. Despite all the hurdles, the Plain Dealer says it's possible Gordon could return to the field as early as next week - but many hurdles remain and the odds of it happening still seem fairly low.
This guy got "caught" with an extremely minor amount of marijuana (now legal in 2 states, and decriminalized in 16). People are reacting like he has an addiction to heroin. Gordon doesn't have a problem. The suspension should be lifted, or at least shortened. The NFL needs to focus on more serious league violations.
My issue with this is not marijuana or the legalization of marijuana, it's the process in which his tests were done. Every time they do testing, they get two samples, an "A" sample and a "B" sample. His "A" sample was right on the minimum for a positive test. They tested his "B" sample and it was below the minimum and not enough for a suspension. I represent people for a living for employee/employer contract law and I have never personally witnessed such a suspension or termination upheld under these circumstances. The NFL and their "independent" arbitrator must be a fixed racket. Generally, both samples need to be above the minimum or the test is invalid regardless of how close they are.
The biggest issue is the lack of intellegence or discipline to follow rules. Rules are rules if you want to be a part of an organization. If you don't agree with them get out or suffer the punishment. That said I hope they hurry and put his ass back in.
C'mon NFLPA.... Hurry up and make a decision! Hopefully they realize that the focus needs to be on performance enhancing drugs. When the last time you knew anyone who got bigger/stronger/faster by smoking weed. Two states in America have legalized, what 's gonna happen if 10 or more do? Get it together NFL and stop hgh use and violent crimes.
Gordon is very talented, but he has a MAJOR problem which needs to be addressed. Legal wrangling on the test threshold, sweeping his infractions (present and past) under the rug, or pointing to other cases in the NFL will not correct the problem either. He supposedly passed over 70 tests, but needs discipline. Time will tell.
He still needs to be suspended for his DUI arrest. He will not play this season. And yes, he will fail again, he's not too bright of a guy. The players get 2 weeks notice before a test.
You idiots realize that failing the test in the NFL is 15ng - failing for the US military is 50ng and failing from the IOC is 150ng - he tested 13ng and 16ng - you guys are talking like he went into the testing higher then a kite.... If you REALLY think that, you have less brain cells then the biggest pot head on the planet -
otejunk u r a duck tard who cares if he can not fulfill the legalities of his contract its his own dam fault.........no body cares what the threshold limit is for anything..........In America the land of oppression and legalized slavery if you cannt follow the rules you get bent the duck over, so get used to it..........maybe you can have Gordon flip your burgers for you in the future...........
LOL - jLadub, I would love to hear you chime in now about your boy AP................ broke his contract, its his own damn fault, hang him up to dry regardless of what the "actual" story is right? just like Gordon right? -
Love it when Karma reaches out and slaps the idiot in the face.... lol
in the legal world you can always retroactively reduce a sentence but it's essentially impossible to increase one based on a rule/law changed after the fact, if they tried Ray could sue the league {and he would win}
After denver beat new england last yeat playoffs manning said he wanted a cold miller lite. beer causes more accidents and violence than weed .but josh gordon cant play football .miller lite sales skyrocketed last superbowl.manning had one of the best statistical seasons sodid josh gordon .manning gets a chance to do it again .josh gordon is saling cars
If manning had the same charges against him would he be suspended 16 games.theres some prejudice here . Thats why after they suspended gordon Thennn they suspended welker and irsay to diminish any race look
Wow, did you really bring in the race card??? I think it is you that is racist and prejudice for even making that comment. I'm not a Manning fan but that was a ridiculous statement.
Laying race blame where there is none only serves actual racists, when it is so blatantly obviously not a race issue it only muddies the water and when actual racism could be present, people might ignore the claims due to the little boy calling wolf...
CMACK the fact that you posted 4 comments in a row instead of one large one tells me you don't have the intelligence to come to a logical conclusion on this issue. In my opinion Gordon should face a suspension for the use of marijuana, which is still illegal even though it isn't a PED or really very dangerous. A full season seems a bit extreme though, maybe he should get the 2 games Rice got. Also if you fail a drug test you get suspended no matter what your skin color is, there's no race issue here. And AmyDustin we aren't supposed to hear about it until after the appeal, it just gets leaked more often than not. The same thing happened to Ryan Braun in baseball.
honestly,it is not about race,so bury that hatchet and take a hard look at the real issues of drug abuse and behavioral disorders,and typographical,interpretive and spelling errors
The rules were in place and the length of suspension is set In stone for drugs for a first second third etc. that is it. Ray rice got off extremely lightly but there were no set suspensions for domestic assault.
CMACK did rice get off lightly because he was white? Oh wait a minute.....
Can't wait to see how long bell and blunt, errr, I mean Blount get. They shouldn't even test for weed. And I thought this was a FF site. Can't believe I wasted time reading this crappolla!
I don't see how Blount and Bell won't even be punished yet Gordon misses a whole season, I hope they lower his suspension. I'd advise everyone to just pick him up off waivers and put him on the IR in case his suspension is cut back at all, that's what I did in both of my money leagues. Also, CMACK, when people like you pull the race card, it makes you look stupid since it wasn't even applicable to the situation, and also because "the only way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it" (Morgan Freeman). When people that are "affected by Racism" pull the race card when nobody mentions racism it can only lead to racism...idiot. As Budsal said, this is a fantasy football website, so please don't do that again because now we have all wasted time reading comments like CMACK, ronplourde, river walker's, and my own.
Lol I couldnt wait to hear youguys response .The question was would the punisment be the same if it was manning? And I wont respond to the name calling anybody is tough in a safe place
seems u have a grudge on the mannings? eli already gets enough hate and bashing for interception and if elite or not. also eli doesnt bring all that bs attention to himself or the team like rg3 did. Thats why RG3 got talked more cause all he did was talk useless crap the entire off season and last season and didnt show up at all. also a qb doesnt suck because he broke a interception record shows how much you dont watch other teams since eli has had other bad seasons and has comeback to play solid.
stop trying to pull some stupid racist crap card where there isnt one and just watch the game. Josh gordon deserves what he is getting and i hope it is a year suspension so it might get him set straight and stop getting into trouble all the time.
yikes no wodner haha man im sorry for the loss, when he can get his head together he wont get into these problems hopefully browns can get some new wr who cna play big and show up.
Comments
lancebconawaySun 9/7/14 12:58 PM
LEGALIZE IT MAAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KubeSun 9/7/14 12:34 PM
This guy got "caught" with an extremely minor amount of marijuana (now legal in 2 states, and decriminalized in 16). People are reacting like he has an addiction to heroin. Gordon doesn't have a problem. The suspension should be lifted, or at least shortened. The NFL needs to focus on more serious league violations.
SkullSplitterMon 9/8/14 2:24 PM
My issue with this is not marijuana or the legalization of marijuana, it's the process in which his tests were done. Every time they do testing, they get two samples, an "A" sample and a "B" sample. His "A" sample was right on the minimum for a positive test. They tested his "B" sample and it was below the minimum and not enough for a suspension. I represent people for a living for employee/employer contract law and I have never personally witnessed such a suspension or termination upheld under these circumstances. The NFL and their "independent" arbitrator must be a fixed racket. Generally, both samples need to be above the minimum or the test is invalid regardless of how close they are.
EL_JJMon 9/8/14 6:00 PM
The biggest issue is the lack of intellegence or discipline to follow rules. Rules are rules if you want to be a part of an organization. If you don't agree with them get out or suffer the punishment. That said I hope they hurry and put his ass back in.
airwrenchSun 9/7/14 11:00 AM
Let em smoke u pansies!!!!
DowntownMBrownSun 9/7/14 9:59 AM
C'mon NFLPA.... Hurry up and make a decision! Hopefully they realize that the focus needs to be on performance enhancing drugs. When the last time you knew anyone who got bigger/stronger/faster by smoking weed. Two states in America have legalized, what 's gonna happen if 10 or more do? Get it together NFL and stop hgh use and violent crimes.
MWFLBSun 9/7/14 8:44 AM
Gordon is very talented, but he has a MAJOR problem which needs to be addressed. Legal wrangling on the test threshold, sweeping his infractions (present and past) under the rug, or pointing to other cases in the NFL will not correct the problem either. He supposedly passed over 70 tests, but needs discipline. Time will tell.
jLadubSun 9/7/14 12:44 AM
burn this bum........kick him out he will just fail another one anyways
DannyBoyRotoSun 9/7/14 12:51 AM
Agreeed
lukeb5301Sun 9/7/14 2:42 AM
Lol stupidest comment I've ever read, the fact someone agreed with it is a shame for mankind
Scorpion_KingSun 9/7/14 4:44 AM
^^^ true that
payouroySun 9/7/14 7:49 AM
He still needs to be suspended for his DUI arrest. He will not play this season. And yes, he will fail again, he's not too bright of a guy. The players get 2 weeks notice before a test.
OtejunKSun 9/7/14 12:23 PM
You idiots realize that failing the test in the NFL is 15ng - failing for the US military is 50ng and failing from the IOC is 150ng - he tested 13ng and 16ng - you guys are talking like he went into the testing higher then a kite.... If you REALLY think that, you have less brain cells then the biggest pot head on the planet -
jLadubSun 9/7/14 4:45 PM
otejunk u r a duck tard who cares if he can not fulfill the legalities of his contract its his own dam fault.........no body cares what the threshold limit is for anything..........In America the land of oppression and legalized slavery if you cannt follow the rules you get bent the duck over, so get used to it..........maybe you can have Gordon flip your burgers for you in the future...........
OtejunKSun 9/14/14 11:47 AM
LOL - jLadub, I would love to hear you chime in now about your boy AP................ broke his contract, its his own damn fault, hang him up to dry regardless of what the "actual" story is right? just like Gordon right? -
Love it when Karma reaches out and slaps the idiot in the face.... lol
[Deleted User]Sun 9/7/14 12:11 AM
Then they should increase Ray Rice's suspension as well.
BlackOmegaSun 9/7/14 12:16 AM
in the legal world you can always retroactively reduce a sentence but it's essentially impossible to increase one based on a rule/law changed after the fact, if they tried Ray could sue the league {and he would win}
[Deleted User]Sun 9/7/14 12:18 AM
Yeah I know, just think it's a stupid. At this point I don't care what they do if the result is we stop talking about this crap.
C216Sun 9/7/14 12:32 AM
After denver beat new england last yeat playoffs manning said he wanted a cold miller lite. beer causes more accidents and violence than weed .but josh gordon cant play football .miller lite sales skyrocketed last superbowl.manning had one of the best statistical seasons sodid josh gordon .manning gets a chance to do it again .josh gordon is saling cars
C216Sun 9/7/14 12:35 AM
If manning had the same charges against him would he be suspended 16 games.theres some prejudice here . Thats why after they suspended gordon Thennn they suspended welker and irsay to diminish any race look
C216Sun 9/7/14 12:36 AM
I was so glad denver got blew out in the bowl
C216Sun 9/7/14 12:39 AM
Roger goodell should be suspended he admitted he got it wrong
RP65Sun 9/7/14 12:39 AM
Wow, did you really bring in the race card??? I think it is you that is racist and prejudice for even making that comment. I'm not a Manning fan but that was a ridiculous statement.
RiverwalkerSun 9/7/14 1:20 AM
CMACK216: You are ignorant.
Laying race blame where there is none only serves actual racists, when it is so blatantly obviously not a race issue it only muddies the water and when actual racism could be present, people might ignore the claims due to the little boy calling wolf...
AmyDustinSun 9/7/14 1:30 AM
How come we didn't hear a thing about Wes Welker's positive drug test, until after he lost his appeal?
szakattackSun 9/7/14 1:42 AM
CMACK the fact that you posted 4 comments in a row instead of one large one tells me you don't have the intelligence to come to a logical conclusion on this issue. In my opinion Gordon should face a suspension for the use of marijuana, which is still illegal even though it isn't a PED or really very dangerous. A full season seems a bit extreme though, maybe he should get the 2 games Rice got. Also if you fail a drug test you get suspended no matter what your skin color is, there's no race issue here. And AmyDustin we aren't supposed to hear about it until after the appeal, it just gets leaked more often than not. The same thing happened to Ryan Braun in baseball.
DoubleDaggersSun 9/7/14 1:49 AM
honestly,it is not about race,so bury that hatchet and take a hard look at the real issues of drug abuse and behavioral disorders,and typographical,interpretive and spelling errors
[Deleted User]Sun 9/7/14 2:16 AM
The rules were in place and the length of suspension is set In stone for drugs for a first second third etc. that is it. Ray rice got off extremely lightly but there were no set suspensions for domestic assault.
CMACK did rice get off lightly because he was white? Oh wait a minute.....
budsalSun 9/7/14 3:53 AM
Can't wait to see how long bell and blunt, errr, I mean Blount get. They shouldn't even test for weed. And I thought this was a FF site. Can't believe I wasted time reading this crappolla!
Ted_RohrerSun 9/7/14 7:38 AM
I don't see how Blount and Bell won't even be punished yet Gordon misses a whole season, I hope they lower his suspension. I'd advise everyone to just pick him up off waivers and put him on the IR in case his suspension is cut back at all, that's what I did in both of my money leagues. Also, CMACK, when people like you pull the race card, it makes you look stupid since it wasn't even applicable to the situation, and also because "the only way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it" (Morgan Freeman). When people that are "affected by Racism" pull the race card when nobody mentions racism it can only lead to racism...idiot. As Budsal said, this is a fantasy football website, so please don't do that again because now we have all wasted time reading comments like CMACK, ronplourde, river walker's, and my own.
C216Sun 9/7/14 7:54 AM
Lol I couldnt wait to hear youguys response .The question was would the punisment be the same if it was manning? And I wont respond to the name calling anybody is tough in a safe place
AwekingsterSun 9/7/14 8:00 AM
yes it would be the same punishment its already established that race isnt a issue on their decision of suspending players.
C216Sun 9/7/14 8:03 AM
O yea and Eli manning Sucks he should not be starting .broke the interception record .But RG3 was the topic of that division .
C216Sun 9/7/14 8:04 AM
U dont believe that awekingster
AwekingsterSun 9/7/14 8:19 AM
seems u have a grudge on the mannings? eli already gets enough hate and bashing for interception and if elite or not. also eli doesnt bring all that bs attention to himself or the team like rg3 did. Thats why RG3 got talked more cause all he did was talk useless crap the entire off season and last season and didnt show up at all. also a qb doesnt suck because he broke a interception record shows how much you dont watch other teams since eli has had other bad seasons and has comeback to play solid.
AwekingsterSun 9/7/14 8:20 AM
stop trying to pull some stupid racist crap card where there isnt one and just watch the game. Josh gordon deserves what he is getting and i hope it is a year suspension so it might get him set straight and stop getting into trouble all the time.
C216Sun 9/7/14 8:49 AM
Ok im done fa now . But im from cleveland (wiping my tears as I speak) And we need that guy
C216Sun 9/7/14 8:49 AM
Im sorry lets watch some football
szakattackSun 9/7/14 9:26 AM
I can do that
AwekingsterSun 9/7/14 9:29 AM
yikes no wodner haha man im sorry for the loss, when he can get his head together he wont get into these problems hopefully browns can get some new wr who cna play big and show up.
Rory-WadeMon 9/8/14 2:33 PM
So now we know why they were not negotiating it down... NFL already knew the suspension would go away.
C216Mon 9/8/14 4:09 PM
Lol
budsalMon 9/8/14 4:36 PM
Hurns looks good.