This is pretty much a first for me... seeing league voting and having members allowed to veto trades by DEFAULT.
For a site that prides itself on customization of rules, it's mind-boggling to think one of the most important transactions in fantasy football... THE TRADE... has one option and one option only... league voting for approval/disapproval.
While some may like this, there's plenty that don't.
Yes, yes, I know "the Commish can over-ride anything"... that's not the point.
You've got a default rule (members voting-down trades) and the Commish can only act after the fact... which can cause problems with owners (hey, we voted that trade down, why are you over-riding us!).
To avoid all of that, it would be really nice if the OPTION was there for Commish's who set-up a league to turn on "COMMISH APPROVED TRADES" right from the get-go... this would avoid problems during the season of people voting-down trades and the Commish having to go behind them and over-ride it.
Simply put, for a "fully customizeable" site to not offer anything but one option which is turned-on by default for league trades is quite surprising.
Please... for the love of all things Holy... allow/implement an option for Commish Approved Trades!
FFCSR_Doug, what you described is EXECUTE TRADE IMMEDIATELY... this is not a Commish-approved trade, this is approve all trades... you seem to be going out of your way to skirt the issue of Commish approved trades here... editing rosters is not the same as a commish approved trade system, nor should it be considered a satisfactory solution to the problem.
I feel like not only is this issue, which many want being brushed aside, but it's even being answered half-hazardly with half-solutions... there's a huge difference between commish approved trades and "INSTANT TRADES" or "COMMISH ALTERS ROSTERS AFTER THE FACT"... that's NOT a Commish-Approved trade system, nor an adequate solution either.
I do exactly what you said in my league, Doug. But that is a second-best alternative. It would be better if there were no kind of indication from Flea Flicker that owners are allowed to veto trades.
I have an official Rulebook in my league, published on the web, that lets all the owners know that they have no veto power, but a lot of other leagues really don't have anything like an always-accessible Rulebook, and in such leagues, commissioners who follow your advice might seem like they are kind of making up the rules as they go along, even if at the beginning of the season maybe they announced one time on the league Message Board that no vetoes are allowed.
It'd be better, in some leagues, if there were an option at Flea Flicker that a Commissioner could utilize that prevented the owners from ever beginning to think they have any veto power. I thought there was last year, actually.
And, really, Commish-only-approved trades should be the default rule. Having owners veto the trades of people they are supposed to be competing against creates a clear conflict of interest.
WolfshanzeThu 8/21/08 12:01 PM
For a site that prides itself on customization of rules, it's mind-boggling to think one of the most important transactions in fantasy football... THE TRADE... has one option and one option only... league voting for approval/disapproval.
While some may like this, there's plenty that don't.
Yes, yes, I know "the Commish can over-ride anything"... that's not the point.
You've got a default rule (members voting-down trades) and the Commish can only act after the fact... which can cause problems with owners (hey, we voted that trade down, why are you over-riding us!).
To avoid all of that, it would be really nice if the OPTION was there for Commish's who set-up a league to turn on "COMMISH APPROVED TRADES" right from the get-go... this would avoid problems during the season of people voting-down trades and the Commish having to go behind them and over-ride it.
Simply put, for a "fully customizeable" site to not offer anything but one option which is turned-on by default for league trades is quite surprising.
Please... for the love of all things Holy... allow/implement an option for Commish Approved Trades!
Wesley_CThu 8/21/08 12:21 PM
FFCSR_DougFri 8/29/08 7:35 AM
WolfshanzeSun 8/31/08 10:28 PM
I feel like not only is this issue, which many want being brushed aside, but it's even being answered half-hazardly with half-solutions... there's a huge difference between commish approved trades and "INSTANT TRADES" or "COMMISH ALTERS ROSTERS AFTER THE FACT"... that's NOT a Commish-Approved trade system, nor an adequate solution either.
RobertKellyTue 9/2/08 1:49 AM
I have an official Rulebook in my league, published on the web, that lets all the owners know that they have no veto power, but a lot of other leagues really don't have anything like an always-accessible Rulebook, and in such leagues, commissioners who follow your advice might seem like they are kind of making up the rules as they go along, even if at the beginning of the season maybe they announced one time on the league Message Board that no vetoes are allowed.
It'd be better, in some leagues, if there were an option at Flea Flicker that a Commissioner could utilize that prevented the owners from ever beginning to think they have any veto power. I thought there was last year, actually.
And, really, Commish-only-approved trades should be the default rule. Having owners veto the trades of people they are supposed to be competing against creates a clear conflict of interest.
Thanks,
OOFFL Commissioner