pappy52 Wed 9/17/08 2:37 PM

if you are in a league with the following users get out asap, they are blatant cheaters, they collude on who and when to drop so they can grab each others players and make trades that are just plain down right sad. so atleast one of their teams is loaded. the users are theflyIV, and billw1942. so if they are in your league either one or both beware of problems with cheating going on

Volt Sun 12/27/09 10:26 PM

Watch out for TonyDorsett - fleaflicker.com

Link to thread with issues with him - fleaflicker.com

freakzzz Mon 12/21/09 8:41 PM

To Quix, scotto, rwk, voltron, DARKSEID and anyone else: take a look at what the "commish" is doing in a league i'm in-probably not for long as this fool needs your attention. Do what you guys do best!!!

CorridaDeLobos, the object of fantasy football is to have fun and your blatant actions show what kind of man you REALLY are!!

freakzzz Mon 12/21/09 8:44 PM

It might help if I provide the link!!!

fleaflicker.com

DARKSEID Tue 12/22/09 5:54 PM

What is he doing that you consider cheating? As far as setting peoples rosters I do that in one league I'am in with friends and family. If they are away from there computer they can call me with what they need changed and I will do it. To me it appears to be that way in your league. Most of the rosters the commish has changed appear to be from Minnesota.

luke1982 Tue 12/22/09 7:00 PM

What did he do wrong? All the lineups look good.

freakzzz Tue 12/22/09 9:22 PM

I'll just put it this way-adjusting rosters AFTER the owner set their lineups, changing the scoring rules AFTER the games are played, stealing players off other rosters, possible owning of more than 1 team in the league. Instead of putting up with the crap, i'm getting out of the league because it pure BS! To see for yourself, somebody pick-up my team that i'm about to drop. This way you'll be able to access the message board and from there, the rest is history.

freakzzz Tue 12/22/09 9:28 PM

As I just found out, I can't drop my team this late in the season. I got an email stating that 4 other owners are leaving when its allowed because they want no part of a league/commish that cheats. I'm doing the right thing and getting out too.

freakzzz Wed 12/23/09 1:21 AM

Just got an email from flea and due to the rampant cheating, the league will be disolved.

[Deleted User] Wed 12/2/09 1:03 AM

pappy wanted to let you all know your doing a great job keeping his thread bumped up all the time

as most of you know, i dont know jack shipt anyways, so dont listen to anything i say anyways..........ok

i was hard on Cuban Cigar Dude, but he was pulling some lame add and drops, which is still playing like a poor sport. I commish 3 leagues and have had no problems with them and Darkseid and I are in two others but he is my Co-Commish on one of them.........I respect Darkseid and value his judgement and friendship........Im not the easiest guy to get along with, especially if you rile me up(right scotto- he called me a sand ()igger- dude Im white...lol) and I know that.........but I fing hate cheaters and If I think your cheating, Im gonna call you on it.

Otherwise, I just try to mind my own business, except for the Brandon Chapman thing, because it did look odd him being 10-0 and then another team with a similar name also 10-0, but your right, I should of kept my nose out of it.........one more game in the season, I have 10 teams, 8 are looking like their going to the playoffs, I guess that makes me a fantasy expert now right...........lol...............later fellow rock lovers

Volt Tue 12/1/09 10:56 PM

Check this out -

Vikings (KohnenBarry) gets

Tony Gonzalez TE ATL

Randy Moss WR NE

Earnest Graham RB TB

Calvin Johnson WR DET

GBPackersRule (Blitzen123) gets

Todd Heap TE BAL

Devery Henderson WR NO

Pierre Garcon WR IND

Tim Hightower RB ARI

GB just joined the league this past week, and just created his/her account too. GB was completely eliminated from the playoffs while Vikings is on top of his division. Clearly these two are colluding. They aren't in any other leagues, just this one, but watch out for them (probably the same person on both accounts).

[Deleted User] Tue 12/1/09 11:07 PM

could that be any more obvious? -- hopefully this trade gets vetoed

Volt Tue 12/1/09 11:46 PM

Hopefully, but at this point in the season many have probably lost interest.

Volt Thu 12/3/09 3:34 PM

It didn't get vetoed...

Craig31RCR Mon 12/7/09 11:20 PM

i vetoed it but don't think anyone else did

[Deleted User] Mon 11/23/09 12:24 PM

ENOUGH!!!!

That is enough about the race card!!! Thats no different as cursing or talking about somebody's family member!!

Cuban, you were told about this over and over and I have reported you for causing trouble over this!!

I recommend that you stop before you lose your membership!!

Rick

scotto1959 Fri 11/27/09 6:40 PM

Rick, remember your blood-pressure now.

luke1982 Fri 11/27/09 7:57 PM

He does get excited.

Craig31RCR Sat 11/28/09 3:51 AM

I agree with not swearing or being racist but I also believe you don't blame people for cheating when the crap your trying to sell about them is nothing but crap. I'd be mad to if a person or 2 that didn't have a life away from there computer were running me down for other reasons than cheating. Not sure the reason(accusations were cheating by Dr.Q) but have looked everything over in the 2 leagues i'm in with cuban since 07 theres no scoring changes or foul play on the waiver wire(which someone falsely accused) or any other proof of cheating. I just keep hearing crap but can't find any proof and if someone can prove this I will say i'm sorry for not buying it but don't think I have to worry about that So anyway Rick take that Cowboys shirt off and make yourself look respectable.

DARKSEID Sat 11/28/09 6:55 AM

Hey moron stop playing stupid. I explained what it was all about to you. Re-read this since your memory can't retain information for very long.fleaflicker.com

Craig31RCR Mon 12/7/09 11:18 PM

hey moron my memory is fine and if you'd read you'd see I see no truth to it in any league i'm in with him

freakzzz Mon 11/23/09 4:08 AM

There's more to life "Chapman" than threatening baseless lawsuits about fantasy football. Do you really think your threats scare anyone here?? What are you going to say to the judge- I play fantasy football and "they called me a cheater?" Go home and cry to mama-better yet, a good episode of "The West Wing" should cure your woes!!

[Deleted User] Sat 11/21/09 7:30 PM

PAPPY SAY BUMP ME UP THRILLER

[Deleted User] Sat 11/21/09 6:53 PM

Pappy say BUMP me up Dr. Q

New cheater to be reported..........his name is CBrandon Chapman

His two leagues are........Prairie Doggin it(yeah he doggin ya)

Football Nerds Inc.(he must be a little nerdy...lol)

His team names are after the INDIAN HERTIAGE, SterlingSilverSox.

yes we have the original Indian Giver folks, he loves to change the box scores and make his team 10-0, he has another team that is also 10-0 in the same league, its probably his kid sister and then at the championship game, when she wupps his lame azz,,he can go in and change the scores again and be a CHUMPION again........

if you have any sense.......stay away from Brandon, the little Indian Giver.

XxJohnson_09xX Sun 11/22/09 12:13 AM

Yupp i found him too, he edits the box scores so he is 10-0 right now and if he never edited them he would be 4-6 and plus he is the only owner active in his league so he must really suck! no wonder why he has to cheat to win. fucken indian

CBrandonChapman Sun 11/22/09 4:25 PM

This is a private league. You don't know anything about this league. You don't know anything about why not only my team, but OTHER teams have been changed.

I'll give a little background:

This league became defunct. We had a gentleman's agreement that we would get rid of the two guys that ruined the league for the whole year, before it ever started. They simultaneously agreed to leave. We started a new league and decided not to even touch the other one.

Sure enough, once the year began, a few idiots started making moves and they were, of course, atop the standings, while everyone else was getting drubbed. So I said "screw that" and did the changes every week to put the people on top who were true to their word. Mostly, it just immediately stopped those guys from trying to win in a league we weren't supposed to be playing in.

I've talked to some of the guys who still have profiles in there. At the end of the regular season, I'm going to make everyone have a .500 record.

I have ONE ACCOUNT and I'm not 10-0 in any other league, so you can shove that up your fourth point of contact.

If you don't know the history or the background, don't start speaking.

If you DO keep speaking, I will sue you for libel.

CBrandonChapman Sun 11/22/09 4:48 PM

Again, at the end of the year, everyone will be .500. But once the dummies saw I was changing things, they stopped trying to win a league we all agreed not to win.

Our league has a history, including the message boards. We wanted to keep those. So we didn't want to delete the league and not access any of it later.

By the way, all but two of the guys from the league are in the one we're really participating in: Football Nerds, Inc. And we're all tight enough that we know each other. Again, this is not a public league; this is not your league. So why worry? Get a life.

And who is INDIAN HERTIAGE? I assume you mean INDIAN HERITAGE? And who is that? Not me? That's not my team. But it's a pretty classy move taking someone else you think is a cheater and saying they're mine.

At this point, you've been given my explanation. So please don't defame me or I'll use it as intent and actual malice and I'll find out who you are and serve you papers for libel.

playerpiano Sun 11/22/09 5:17 PM

Why don't you just drop that other league?

XxJohnson_09xX Sun 11/22/09 6:12 PM

Alright well i guess i just dont understand? why would you make everyone .500 at the end of the year but yet ur editing all the past box scores?

Volt Sun 11/22/09 7:01 PM

Who cares? It is a private league. You aren't in his league, so why does it bother you so much? Do you just sit on here all day looking at other peoples records and then go to see if their stats are legit?

Let's see, you are in a league where only 2 people are active (well technically 3, but the third hasn't signed in for 13 days now). Does that mean you suck (after all, you said that Mr. Chapman sucks)?

You are 6-4 in a league of 4 (only 3 active). 3 of your wins have come against a team that is inactive and is starting only 3 players. If that person actually would set their lineup then you would likely be 3-7. Does that mean you suck?

Why can't people just mind their own business? There are real cheaters out there, leave this thread for them. Don't fill it up with Mr. Magoo detective work that is unfounded, especially if you have never played in a league with that person.

XxJohnson_09xX Sun 11/22/09 7:15 PM

Shut up man i hate cheaters so i am just trying to get rid of them

XxJohnson_09xX Sun 11/22/09 7:22 PM

Ok well your in a league and there is two people in ur league that have dropped out. You played each team and beat both of them. Your record is currently 5-5 but if those people would actually set their lineup, you would probably be 3-7. Does that mean you suck?

CBrandonChapman Sun 11/22/09 8:48 PM

If you actually saw the transactions, you'd see that only a few people were doing something. It wasn't until I took three teams (one of which was mine) and started throwing in false wins, that they truly stopped.

We don't want the past years' histories to dissipate, along with the message boards. That's why we don't delete the league.

In the meantime, I'm formulating an idea to propose to Fleaflicker in the Ideas and Suggestions forum to allow historical leagues. So, they are completely locked-down, but accessible to the FF administrators and those who took part in the league itself.

In the end, thanks VoltronForce for pointing out, again, that this was a private league. Look at the leagues I'm in. Any public ones? If so, THEN AND ONLY THEN would you have reason for concern.

Volt Mon 11/23/09 7:34 AM

Johnson - if having one team that could potentially be 3-7 (well, it would have been 4-6 since one of the teams was still active when I faced them) means I suck, then you sure caught me red handed. I now bow before your greatness and all of those extremely tough 4 team leagues you are in.

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