I know this has been talked about before, but it feels like its getting worse. Almost every time I place a claim in, the system seems to not process it and the player goes directly to free agency. That makes it like a first come first serve thing, which isn't supposed to happen with a waiver system. This is a bigger issue than future lineups in my opinion.
[Deleted User]Wed 4/14/10 10:08 PM
Wilson,
I looked over all the leagues you are in (6) and here is where you are getting confused with the whole waiver thing:
3 of the leagues you belong to are set for NO WAIVERS meaning that when a player is dropped, he goes directly to the free agent pool.
2 of them are set for Waivers to be processed before the game start of each day, but players are locked in the system for 24 hours, resetting every day at game start.
And 1 is normal.
Thats why it is important to look over everything in a league (scoring, rosters and the waiver system) before joining as some members like yourself are used to one way of doing things and a commish can set the waivers to work the way they want.
I am aware that 3 of the leagues don't have waivers, so obviously those aren't the ones I'm having issues with. The problem and confusion mostly seems to be in the "Drafting Tonight" league though. There were some guys I claimed, for example Jay Bruce (who I ended up getting by adding him later), and the claims weren't processed even though I had the #2 claim. Did this have to do with the time of day? Like for the Bruce claim, it said the claim was invalidated, even though no one got him, and I was able was able to pick him up the next day. Thanks for the help Rick.
Hey Wilson ( geeze, I feel like tim the tool guy ) This whole waiver system is trash, shouldn't matter what time you claim, daily or weekly league, any of that shit. I put a guy on the DL ( and don't even get me started on Fleas F'ed up DL thing) Went to claim a new guy for him, picked one and the system said I had to drop a player as the one I just put on the DL was back in the line-up, like I never moved him. I look over everything before I join a league and it dosen't make a shit if the system is screwed up. And it's screwed up. As far as the commish setting waivers, how about some that change things after the draft. Sorry reading ricks thing and talking to you. I'm pissed and going to go and try and figure out why flea is so stupid as to install point penalties for having DL's on your roster. Tards!!!
By what I see for it waiver system, by the way this is the one that made me think why, waivers are processed at gametime and everyday for this fact. The system seems to be set for everyday processes but after 24 hours the player is on the free agent pool.
The only time a waiver gets invalidated: 1. is for dropping the player involved 2. move give too many at one spot (roster) or 3. you had more than one claim in and when one gets processed you move back down the ladder.
Those 3 reasons are what I thought too, except something is definitely messed up with timing of claims in the FF system. This thread was made to hopefully make them take a look at that stuff. Its hard to explain the real problem because its so inconsistent, but at least I want the admins to make sure everything is right, even though I think the times are way too confusing and pretty much a lot of bs.
Dynasty, let me know the exact leagues and transactions so I can have a look at what was processesed vs. invalidated. This way we can help you get to the problem fastest.
NE_Dynasty_0119Wed 4/14/10 8:14 PM
I know this has been talked about before, but it feels like its getting worse. Almost every time I place a claim in, the system seems to not process it and the player goes directly to free agency. That makes it like a first come first serve thing, which isn't supposed to happen with a waiver system. This is a bigger issue than future lineups in my opinion.
[Deleted User]Wed 4/14/10 10:08 PM
Wilson,
I looked over all the leagues you are in (6) and here is where you are getting confused with the whole waiver thing:
3 of the leagues you belong to are set for NO WAIVERS meaning that when a player is dropped, he goes directly to the free agent pool.
2 of them are set for Waivers to be processed before the game start of each day, but players are locked in the system for 24 hours, resetting every day at game start.
And 1 is normal.
Thats why it is important to look over everything in a league (scoring, rosters and the waiver system) before joining as some members like yourself are used to one way of doing things and a commish can set the waivers to work the way they want.
Rick
NE_Dynasty_0119Wed 4/14/10 11:06 PM
I am aware that 3 of the leagues don't have waivers, so obviously those aren't the ones I'm having issues with. The problem and confusion mostly seems to be in the "Drafting Tonight" league though. There were some guys I claimed, for example Jay Bruce (who I ended up getting by adding him later), and the claims weren't processed even though I had the #2 claim. Did this have to do with the time of day? Like for the Bruce claim, it said the claim was invalidated, even though no one got him, and I was able was able to pick him up the next day. Thanks for the help Rick.
scotto1959Wed 4/14/10 11:40 PM
Hey Wilson ( geeze, I feel like tim the tool guy ) This whole waiver system is trash, shouldn't matter what time you claim, daily or weekly league, any of that shit. I put a guy on the DL ( and don't even get me started on Fleas F'ed up DL thing) Went to claim a new guy for him, picked one and the system said I had to drop a player as the one I just put on the DL was back in the line-up, like I never moved him. I look over everything before I join a league and it dosen't make a shit if the system is screwed up. And it's screwed up. As far as the commish setting waivers, how about some that change things after the draft. Sorry reading ricks thing and talking to you. I'm pissed and going to go and try and figure out why flea is so stupid as to install point penalties for having DL's on your roster. Tards!!!
Later Wilson.
You got a fence around your house?
[Deleted User]Wed 4/14/10 11:47 PM
Scott,
Your refering to my leagues and it's ME and the league that voted for the penalty, nothing in FF system DEDUCTS points for a illegal roster.
Rick
scotto1959Thu 4/15/10 1:01 AM
OH, then illegal rosters are just nothing, no points deducted or anything.
[Deleted User]Thu 4/15/10 1:12 AM
Can't pick up any players off the wire or free agents until the player is put back in the lineup or cut.
In the league that you are in with me, don't move by Mon Afternoon, then the penalty goes in effect.
Rick
[Deleted User]Wed 4/14/10 11:58 PM
By what I see for it waiver system, by the way this is the one that made me think why, waivers are processed at gametime and everyday for this fact. The system seems to be set for everyday processes but after 24 hours the player is on the free agent pool.
The only time a waiver gets invalidated: 1. is for dropping the player involved 2. move give too many at one spot (roster) or 3. you had more than one claim in and when one gets processed you move back down the ladder.
Rick
NE_Dynasty_0119Thu 4/15/10 12:10 AM
Those 3 reasons are what I thought too, except something is definitely messed up with timing of claims in the FF system. This thread was made to hopefully make them take a look at that stuff. Its hard to explain the real problem because its so inconsistent, but at least I want the admins to make sure everything is right, even though I think the times are way too confusing and pretty much a lot of bs.
FleaMod AdminThu 4/15/10 12:56 AM
Dynasty, let me know the exact leagues and transactions so I can have a look at what was processesed vs. invalidated. This way we can help you get to the problem fastest.
[Deleted User]Thu 4/15/10 1:14 AM
This is the league he is talking about Hal:
fleaflicker.com
The waiver was for Bruce from a day ago, back page twice.
Rick