DL/LB scoring same play, same player for 2 positions. ie: Orakpo 1 tackle= 2 points atDL plus 1 point at LB for 3 points for the same tackle??? You guys are stupid!!!
My question has to do with scoring, which was asked (and I don't see fully answered) in this post.
"Da18thLetter28 19 Days
Dual eligibility would be fine with me, I would just like for FleaFlicker to fix the scoring so that dual eligible players only get the points for the position they are actually playing on a fantasy roster.
Example: I try to set my scoring up where a WR gets a different amount of points for a reception than a RB does. Let's say a WR gets 1 point for a reception and a RB gets 1.25 points for a reception. The way things are set up now, a player with the WR/RB dual eligibility would get 2.25 points per reception regardless of which fantasy roster spot he is taking up. I have the same problem with dual eligible LB/DL. I can't set up my scoring the way I would like because of this. I want the best players to score the most points in my league and it is next to impossible to level the playing ground for a DL and a LB as long as the dual eligible guys get both sets of points. Please fix this ASAP. Thank you. Hal, I am pretty sure you already know my views on this as we have discussed this before. I hope progress is being made on this front."
There may be more examples than the two players below, but they're the two I am aware of. Both have DL/LB and, since the two different positions have different scoring rules, they are being awarded points for both positions.
Terrell Suggs was started as a DL
Mario Williams was started as a LB
Yet, both players were awarded points for sacks as if they were both LB and DL
Terrell Suggs
3 points for every Sack applied to 3 Sacks 9
4 points for every Sack applied to 3 Sacks 12
Mario Williams
3 points for every Sack applied to 2 Sacks 6
4 points for every Sack applied to 2 Sacks 8
This makes a significant difference in scoring. We intend to only award points to a player for the position they are started in. Can someone please respond with an explanation on how this works?
There's a limitation in our custom scoring system right now, it can't detect where you started a player.
We calculate points based just on player position and stats, not based on where he was started.
I agree with you it needs to be fixed for IDP leagues but right now it's not feasible.
What we can do without much effort is award multi-positional players the higher or lower of the two values. If there's interest in that I can put it out. It's probably better than the way it is now.
"award multi-positional players the higher or lower of the two values"
That is a far superior option than awarding them points for both. Truthfully, this is probably is significant enough where I might be forced to migrate my league to a different site (probably back to MyFantasyLeague) in time for week two if not addressed.
Is there a chance this fix could be in place before week two?
Sure, deploying a fix now. It will show the first of the rules to appear that applies to the multi-positional player in question. Here is Mario Williams in your league for week 1.
I know this isn't the right solution but it's the best I can do without a full re-write of our system.
It is on our list of things to do to support what you request. But there are some tricky cases to consider. If you could answer the following that will help us:
1. What happens when a player is started at a flex? E.g., Mario Williams started at DL/LB. Which rules should apply?
2. What points should be displayed for the player's cumulative season total (like when browsing free agents)?
scotto1959Fri 9/17/10 1:04 AM
DL/LB scoring same play, same player for 2 positions. ie: Orakpo 1 tackle= 2 points atDL plus 1 point at LB for 3 points for the same tackle??? You guys are stupid!!!
dmw71Mon 9/12/11 5:30 PM
^bump^
I can't figure out from below whether or not this was fixed?
I sent the following into the support e-mail address but also wanted to put this out in the open forums for the benefit of others as well.
[e-mail]
I have read many threads regarding dual eligibility players and most seem to address the matter of their taking up slots.
fleaflicker.com
fleaflicker.com
My question has to do with scoring, which was asked (and I don't see fully answered) in this post.
"Da18thLetter28 19 Days
Dual eligibility would be fine with me, I would just like for FleaFlicker to fix the scoring so that dual eligible players only get the points for the position they are actually playing on a fantasy roster.
Example: I try to set my scoring up where a WR gets a different amount of points for a reception than a RB does. Let's say a WR gets 1 point for a reception and a RB gets 1.25 points for a reception. The way things are set up now, a player with the WR/RB dual eligibility would get 2.25 points per reception regardless of which fantasy roster spot he is taking up. I have the same problem with dual eligible LB/DL. I can't set up my scoring the way I would like because of this. I want the best players to score the most points in my league and it is next to impossible to level the playing ground for a DL and a LB as long as the dual eligible guys get both sets of points. Please fix this ASAP. Thank you. Hal, I am pretty sure you already know my views on this as we have discussed this before. I hope progress is being made on this front."
There may be more examples than the two players below, but they're the two I am aware of. Both have DL/LB and, since the two different positions have different scoring rules, they are being awarded points for both positions.
Terrell Suggs was started as a DL
Mario Williams was started as a LB
Yet, both players were awarded points for sacks as if they were both LB and DL
Terrell Suggs
3 points for every Sack applied to 3 Sacks 9
4 points for every Sack applied to 3 Sacks 12
Mario Williams
3 points for every Sack applied to 2 Sacks 6
4 points for every Sack applied to 2 Sacks 8
This makes a significant difference in scoring. We intend to only award points to a player for the position they are started in. Can someone please respond with an explanation on how this works?
Thanks,
- Dave (dmw71)
fleafounder AdminMon 9/12/11 5:53 PM
There's a limitation in our custom scoring system right now, it can't detect where you started a player.
We calculate points based just on player position and stats, not based on where he was started.
I agree with you it needs to be fixed for IDP leagues but right now it's not feasible.
What we can do without much effort is award multi-positional players the higher or lower of the two values. If there's interest in that I can put it out. It's probably better than the way it is now.
dmw71Mon 9/12/11 5:59 PM
"award multi-positional players the higher or lower of the two values"
That is a far superior option than awarding them points for both. Truthfully, this is probably is significant enough where I might be forced to migrate my league to a different site (probably back to MyFantasyLeague) in time for week two if not addressed.
Is there a chance this fix could be in place before week two?
Thanks,
- Dave (dmw71)
fleafounder AdminMon 9/12/11 6:15 PM
Sure, deploying a fix now. It will show the first of the rules to appear that applies to the multi-positional player in question. Here is Mario Williams in your league for week 1.
I know this isn't the right solution but it's the best I can do without a full re-write of our system.
It is on our list of things to do to support what you request. But there are some tricky cases to consider. If you could answer the following that will help us:
1. What happens when a player is started at a flex? E.g., Mario Williams started at DL/LB. Which rules should apply?
2. What points should be displayed for the player's cumulative season total (like when browsing free agents)?
Thanks.
dmw71Mon 9/12/11 11:56 PM
"It will show the first of the rules to appear that applies to the multi-positional player in question."
Is there a simple way to order these scoring rules? I would ultimately want to order my scoring rules from most beneficial-to-least beneficial.
dmw71Wed 8/15/12 3:28 PM
As the primary scoring concern my league had last season, I'm checking in to see if this situation has been addressed for the upcoming season?