Marc Methot is not getting his hopes up for a speedy labor resolution despite the NHL and NHLPA meeting for a third straight day on Thursday. "We're optimistic that we're talking, but we know not to get ahead of ourselves," he said. "We've had our little meetings before and everyone was left down afterwards. You've got to keep your guard up." The Ottawa defenseman is encouraged by the number of key players on both sides that are involved in the recent negotiations though because "It shows the talks are becoming more real and more meaningful."