We released a new feature today that allows waiver claims to be resolved using a blind bid auction instead of (often rank-based) priority.
How it works
In the past claims for the same player were awarded to the team with the best waiver position.
Now you can use a blind-bid auction system. Here, players are awarded to the team that submits the highest bid (if there is a tie, the player will be awarded to the team with the worst rank). Each time one of your claims is processed, the bid amount will be deducted from your remaining budget.
How to set it up
Edit your league's waiver claim options and select the initial budget for each team (also editable on a team-by-team basis throughout the year).
You can manage your claims as usual on your team's waiver claims page.
How to test it out
If you are curious as to how this works or you want to help test this for football, create a baseball league. The waiver options are exactly the same as in football.
Let us know if there are any problems or if you have any suggestions.
It would be great if the you could set a min bid amount, in our league there is a $2 min bid, if you are the lone bidder at $10 you only have to pay the minimum.........
kinda sucks on how we haveta wait till after week 1 to start the bidding. Our league had to work around that so teams can pick up players during preseason
What happens after the first round of bidding is done (i.e. on Wednesday). Does it go back to the first come first serve option? Do the dropped players go into waivers again and the bidding system does another round?
You can submit as many claims as you want--we'll process them all.
After claims process on Wednesday (or whatever day your league selects) all players not dropped during the claims are available on a first-come-first-served basis.
OK, looked through the thread and can not find any info on this. Why can't we utilize blind bidding or even regular waivers prior to week 1? It doesn't make sense to me to not allow players to be claimed on a waiver system in preseason.
Because the waivers are game-start waivers, i.e. begin when the games start every week. Players who are dropped from a roster during the preseason will be put on waivers for the time assigned to dropped players.
Fair enough... I'll throw this in suggestions as well, but all my leagues prefer a full waiver system even in presesason rather than a free for all. You should be able to utilize the game-start system in preseason as well.
Can you please explain why waiver system isn't working? As far as I know the commic has option of allowing pre-season waivers or not. I have not tried to process a waiver but we were able to last year.
Funny thing about the blind bid waiver thing is this. In every league I am in, it has been put to a vote to either keep waivers at worst to first or switch to the new option and very few like the idea and want to switch. It seems 90% like the worst to first option... just sharing an observation.
I think there are a couple reasons why people prefer the normal waiver system. For one, it lets the worst teams have a better chance at improving their rosters. That is good to increase competition throughout the season.
Another reason is because people don't like to try new things. Some may be intimidated by having to make extra decisions on how much to bid, how much to keep available for later, etc. People have become lazy because of the internet (just look how bad people spell these days, even with auto spellchecks in most web browsers). The extra math may scare some away.
On the topic of bidding, it would be great to add auction leagues some time. Any chance at something like that in the near future?
Just wondering how complicated it'd be to make it so all transactions work on this system. That is the easy way to a salary cap league in some sense. I don't think it'd be too hard. The main goal is so that you have to manage your budget year round for every transaction to make sure you have the right amount of $$ left for future signings, yet make sure you get the ones you want. Anyone understand what I'm getting at?
fleafounder AdminThu 8/6/09 1:22 PM
We released a new feature today that allows waiver claims to be resolved using a blind bid auction instead of (often rank-based) priority.
How it works
In the past claims for the same player were awarded to the team with the best waiver position.
Now you can use a blind-bid auction system. Here, players are awarded to the team that submits the highest bid (if there is a tie, the player will be awarded to the team with the worst rank). Each time one of your claims is processed, the bid amount will be deducted from your remaining budget.
How to set it up
Edit your league's waiver claim options and select the initial budget for each team (also editable on a team-by-team basis throughout the year).
You can manage your claims as usual on your team's waiver claims page.
How to test it out
If you are curious as to how this works or you want to help test this for football, create a baseball league. The waiver options are exactly the same as in football.
Let us know if there are any problems or if you have any suggestions.
Thanks.
TrophiesSat 9/18/10 9:04 PM
O.K. so now we just make up the rules as we go from week to week? Who
proposed this change and why wasn't a league vote proposed? Does this
mean we can just make rule changes as it suits the teams who would like
to make changes anytime it may help thier team? I thought this league
would follow general democratic institutions as does our great country,
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Another change of rules, another possible
advantage for the already teams to stay in control. When will those in need,
get a fair chance? I believe in a still assumed 'FREE' country, this RULE Change
should at least get a fair vote, by ALL members of the league! Is this still the
U.S.A.? Or are we just losing more rights to the establishment? Go U.S.A.
VoltSat 9/18/10 9:37 PM
What in the world are you talking about?
flyer_mikeWed 8/11/10 6:33 PM
A couple quick questions on this feature.
1. if a teams budget runs out, they can still bid on the player (obviously 0 if they have none left) and then just not get him if someone else bids?
2. say if you bid $12 on a player, and the 2nd highest bids $9, Do you get the player for $10 or are you still paying $12?
Thanks
VoltWed 8/11/10 11:21 PM
1. You can still bid on waivers, but the amount will be 0, so if anyone does bid at least a $1 then that person has no chance.
2. You pay whatever amount you bid. If you bid $50 and the next highest is $1, you still lose $50 when you get the player.
Plh11372Wed 8/11/10 11:57 PM
It would be great if the you could set a min bid amount, in our league there is a $2 min bid, if you are the lone bidder at $10 you only have to pay the minimum.........
flyer_mikeThu 8/12/10 4:49 PM
ohh ok thats what i thought, Thanks i appreciate it.
Mister_TWed 8/18/10 7:48 PM
Being able to still bid 0 is a good feature. Yahoo doesn't do this.
AAA777Tue 12/29/09 12:49 AM
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DaSOBCommishFri 8/28/09 6:08 PM
kinda sucks on how we haveta wait till after week 1 to start the bidding. Our league had to work around that so teams can pick up players during preseason
paulsFri 8/28/09 11:08 AM
What happens after the first round of bidding is done (i.e. on Wednesday). Does it go back to the first come first serve option? Do the dropped players go into waivers again and the bidding system does another round?
fleafounder AdminFri 8/28/09 12:55 PM
You can submit as many claims as you want--we'll process them all.
After claims process on Wednesday (or whatever day your league selects) all players not dropped during the claims are available on a first-come-first-served basis.
bungle613613Thu 8/27/09 12:31 AM
OK, looked through the thread and can not find any info on this. Why can't we utilize blind bidding or even regular waivers prior to week 1? It doesn't make sense to me to not allow players to be claimed on a waiver system in preseason.
VoltThu 8/27/09 8:18 AM
Because the waivers are game-start waivers, i.e. begin when the games start every week. Players who are dropped from a roster during the preseason will be put on waivers for the time assigned to dropped players.
bungle613613Thu 8/27/09 12:29 PM
Fair enough... I'll throw this in suggestions as well, but all my leagues prefer a full waiver system even in presesason rather than a free for all. You should be able to utilize the game-start system in preseason as well.
ColonelMustardFri 8/28/09 12:16 AM
Can you please explain why waiver system isn't working? As far as I know the commic has option of allowing pre-season waivers or not. I have not tried to process a waiver but we were able to last year.
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[Deleted User]Tue 8/18/09 5:54 PM
Funny thing about the blind bid waiver thing is this. In every league I am in, it has been put to a vote to either keep waivers at worst to first or switch to the new option and very few like the idea and want to switch. It seems 90% like the worst to first option... just sharing an observation.
DARKSEIDTue 8/18/09 6:11 PM
True, I was hoping it would pass in your league so I could give it a try but that doesn't look like it is going to go through.
fleafounder AdminTue 8/18/09 9:18 PM
It didn't pass in my most important keeper league either.
It doesn't make sense to me. The whole point of waivers is to allow equal access to free agents. Blind bid auctions are better in that regard.
VoltTue 8/18/09 10:17 PM
I think there are a couple reasons why people prefer the normal waiver system. For one, it lets the worst teams have a better chance at improving their rosters. That is good to increase competition throughout the season.
Another reason is because people don't like to try new things. Some may be intimidated by having to make extra decisions on how much to bid, how much to keep available for later, etc. People have become lazy because of the internet (just look how bad people spell these days, even with auto spellchecks in most web browsers). The extra math may scare some away.
On the topic of bidding, it would be great to add auction leagues some time. Any chance at something like that in the near future?
fleafounder AdminThu 8/20/09 7:18 PM
Yeah definitely would love to add it for next season.
VoltThu 8/20/09 10:28 PM
That would be a great addition. I will be waiting for that for sure.
comedic_impFri 8/28/09 3:57 AM
I would pay for this feature.
[Deleted User]Thu 8/20/09 6:31 PM
I guess the time spent on the blind bids should have gone towards the logo's roflmao.... hehehehe
VoltThu 8/20/09 10:29 PM
Yeah, so much for hoping the threads about logos would go away. They have practically increased tenfold since being made available.
Mister_TWed 8/18/10 7:48 PM
People get freaked by the word 'auction'. Auction drafting is serious stuff. It's not for novices nor the faint of heart.
Auction waivers, OTOH, are easy, intuitive, super fun and super fair. People just don't realize that are are afraid to try it.
bkardane11Mon 8/10/09 4:43 PM
Just wondering how complicated it'd be to make it so all transactions work on this system. That is the easy way to a salary cap league in some sense. I don't think it'd be too hard. The main goal is so that you have to manage your budget year round for every transaction to make sure you have the right amount of $$ left for future signings, yet make sure you get the ones you want. Anyone understand what I'm getting at?
bkardane11Thu 8/20/09 6:21 PM
Any updatE?