Sonny_D Sep 03 '78

Does he get individual credit if you start him as a WR even though the TD came on special teams? Our league is set up to give individual players TD scores plus the TM defense as well. Please advise

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FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

This was updated to give Edelman a TD recovery.

i58858543 Sep 05 '78

I'm still not seeing the 6pts for Edelman in my league. Should it be there already?

FleaMod Admin Sep 05 '78

Not in your league. You're only applying the rules for a fumble recovery and a defensive TD to TM, you would have to either apply them to ALL or a WR for him to receive the points.

Look under scoring rules and it is spelled out better, thanks:

fleaflicker.com

i58858543 Sep 05 '78

Wow, thank you for the lightning fast response. I didn't realize that made a difference, now I know. I think this is the first time in our 6 years w/ fleaflicker this has ever come up. Thanks again for the reply.

thriftyrocker Sep 03 '78

So basically there's no way for an individual player to get credit for a special teams fumble recovery TD? Or did the TD count as a "Defensive TD" for IDP players even though it happened on special teams?

What scoring rule would I have to apply to all players in order to count it? Or is it just a black hole?

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

He is a WR, he would have had to have been a defensive player. The Patriots get credit for the TD, but Edelman as a WR will not.

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

You would have to have your commish edit the scoring rules if you want Edelman to receive the points.

Sonny_D Sep 03 '78

I just looked up the scoring settings and on defense, it appears you can designate a defensive TD to "ALL" instead of just "TM" meaning only team defense. Wouldn't this scoring rule change then give credit to Edelman as well as the New England team defense?

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

The ALL still will not apply to Edelman, as he is not an IDP. ALL would apply to players in that category that are DL, LB, DB and TM -- so, the scoring rule change would not give points to Edelman.

Edelman is not considered an IDP player and for fantasy purposes, we take every play on a case-by-case basis. Edelman will not receive points for the ST TD that he ran in; the Patriots defense will, but Edelman will not according to our default rules. The commissioner can change this and tweak this at his discretion.

ImmaBigDeal Sep 03 '78

So if djack scores a td on a return, is that not a td either? He is on special teams when he scores, just like edelman...or what if edelman was on punt (TM) and the fake it, he scores on the fake - does he not get a td there?

ImmaBigDeal Sep 03 '78

My point is if you start a guy, he scores, no matter the position or situation, he should get that td...there is no logic against that...

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

There are separate returning rules, so Jackson would get the points had your league had it incorporated -- but not separate fumble recovery rules on ST or non-IDP players right now. Talk to your commish.

You would have to edit past box scores on Tuesday.

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

Your explanations both have the Eagles starting on offense, so yes, he'd score-Edelman didn't start on offense, so they are different in nature. Sorry we can't accommodate a new rule for this right now, but it's structured this way for a reason. Again, your commish can change scores Tuesday and can email us any time to help -- and we'll work on having a separate category for offensive special team fumble returns next year, we understand where you're coming from.

Thanks.

rangerdave Sep 03 '78

An ALL designation for Defensive TD does give credit to Edelman. Here is Edelman's scoring for a league with that rule: fleaflicker.com

Sonny_D Sep 03 '78

That's what I thought. Thanks for that update.

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

This was updated to give Edelman a TD recovery.

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

This was updated to give Edelman a TD recovery.

thriftyrocker Sep 06 '78

I actually have a league where it was double counted now (actually 2, but one he was benched).

fleaflicker.com

And in the league scoring settings we have

6 points for every Defensive TD ALL

6 points for every Fumble Return TD QB, RB, WR, TE, K

I'm guessing we should delete the Fumble Return TD scoring to prevent double-scoring. Do you concur?

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 06 '78

It's up to you, but it's double purposely there per your rules.

FFCSR_Hal Admin Sep 03 '78

No, he doesn't get points since he's not an IDP there; it's not a returning rule.